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Originally Posted by Saga Lout
If the Israel study is correct, those who have natural immunity are 13 times less likely to get it again or pass it on, that can only be a good thing. I was at my Doctors on Monday and he had the virus in March after his jabs, he asked why I hadn't had them and I gave him my answer, my natural immunity will outlast the jabs and they can't add anything to my immune system that's needed, there's a train of thought that suggests the vaccines are causing immune system overload, this is why it's being thought that vaccinated people are the main ones in hospitals right now. The immune system does a job and fights off infection, to load it with more similar antibodies could be a trigger for a worse outcome, these are not my thoughts, they are from rational people in medicine studies. If you get the virus you should take lots of fluids, that's what got me through it I reckon.
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I know nothing of this Israel study, nor any others really - I have no interest, as a survey will not stop me from contracting it (if it is the country, I am not sure I would trust it). But this is 'only 13 times', it is still not given, however it would be interesting to know the likelihood/comparison of contracting it again after being double jabbed - would you have the jabs if it was 15 times less likely to get it? I am just curious, but in all honesty, I have no feelings on whether people have it or not. I do though object to those not wearing a mask in private and public commercial premises when they are requested, but that is a different discussion lol. Having the jabs is a personal choice, I do though, believe in the benefits of herd immunity, and see the jabs as a 'head start' for an individual's natural immune system to do its thing. With the vaccination provided to be able to do this, and therefore reduce the workload on the health services. There are still many many more dying from the virus than from the vaccination.
The reason more people are in the hospital suffering from Covid could simply be down to the numbers of those who have had the virus than those who have not. (assuming you mean with Covid, but the headline figures here in NI read the opposite a couple of weeks ago, by quite a margin apparently - although I did not read further into this).
Again though, the vaccination is not supposed to stop anyone from getting it, but simply to reduce the effects of the virus if or when they contract it, and reducing the strain on the health service. Whether the vaccination or herd/natural immunity after contracting the virus has helped reduce the strain I really do not know.
Something to keep in mind though, is that whilst the virus had a manageable effect on you (or any individual), it may be 'received' very differently by someone else. Myself, I reckon I would
suffer with and ultimately
deal with it, but I know, my mother could not, my father would have difficulty with it. As you say, the vaccination could be a trigger for something else in the future and indeed has been for some unfortunate people, however these numbers are still a massive comparable minority. Future, long term side effects though may be a different story.
but I would be quite confident that it will be quite safe - but I still wouldnt complain about someone not having it.