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Old 23rd November 2021, 19:02   #124
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Originally Posted by edwardmk View Post
Absolutely correct. Whenever the press ran an article on dentists' pay it was always negative. Many years ago I had patients who believed a press article that dentists were on £200k salaries. The useless scribes had confused EBITDA with net income. I knew a garage owner in Aboyne back in 1980 whose gross was £250k from petrol. He needed a new petrol pump, and decided it made more sense for him to stop serving petrol since his margins were too thin to justify buying a new pump. My NHS pension will be about £500/year because I abandoned the NHS in 1980 to go and work for Shell Expro in Aberdeen. I was told , we want you to do good dentistry (amongst other useful requirements for them). I found that working hard but properly, the NHS income we claimed was 1/3 of what was needed for me to earn £17k, which was a good salary then, and that Shell made up the difference while providing premises, staff, materials and repairs. Fast forwards to today, and dentists make the NHS contract work by working fast...and I mean fast.
Those who manage get to 65, most run for the hills, since they get a very nice pension and are burned out. I could go on, but not sure if it's appropriate in this thread?

I think this debate is now more interesting than the main thread topic. My hopes have been truly dashed. I started off wanting to make friends with dentists so that I could enjoy holidays with these friends on their Sunseekers. Then my overriding socialist principles determined that dentists should in fact follow other deserving groups to the correction facilities post the revolution. Now, I am left feeling sorry for my dentist and thinking of starting a collection to support his welfare!

As for the thread topic, I think the thread has lost the plot. The fundamental question is not whether having the vaccination is beneficial, but rather whether it can ever be morally acceptable to force an individual or group of individuals to choose between having something that could have long-term side effects injected into their bodies or maintaining their employment/livelihoods.

I note that care home residents and their visitors are not being mandated to have the vaccination. Yet this would be the solution to giving the residents protection.
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