thankyou martin for your reply. it seems that my clamp probably would have done the job. its certainly a good idea . did you have room for the rears as well as the fronts to get the clamp on ? although the rears have more access its still better to use your fitting method if at all possible. still im all up and running now running very sweet. i had the added burden of removing the LPG setup as well. which makes the job more long winded. thanks for the tip . ..