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Old 1st November 2019, 20:01   #10
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If that reduced consumption most affected those who over-consume the most, we should applaud it, and tell the government they are doing everything right, but can we please do even more to reduce production and consumption? But in reality, it is a sign that the poorest can't afford the basics, let alone non-essentials, while their rich employers cry crocodile tears, tell them there will have to be redundancies, then retire to their mansions to count their riches. Years ago, we were promised that automation would bring us consumer heaven and a shorter working week, with plenty of wealth and leisure for all. Instead, it has allowed owners to employ fewer workers, and pocket the profits from their productivity. Having paid for manufacturing robots that can work accurately, without fatigue, 24/7, they have the ability to manufacture for the world, and not be bothered by troublesome workers rights, unions and the like. So the rich get richer, and the poor only have a job if they can work more cheaply than a robot. Brave new world - I want to get off!
Andrew, I'm a design engineer.............I specialise in factory automation and hate unions.

I also believe in manufacturing things in-house, quality products designed to last, not cheap rubbish from the far east, mass produced cheaply for a disposable market.

Make no bones, the likes of Nissan and Honda will be out of the UK, not because of the current political climate, but because the Japanese have struck a trade deal direct with EU, so as such don't need satellite plants outside of Japan as their "backdoor" into the European market.

All of this has no bearing on climate change, the doom and gloom merchants do not like people pointing out that 10000 years ago, Scotland was a sub tropical paradise

There is a cycle of warming and cooling that has occurred for millennia, and while I agree rampant consumption of the Earth's natural resources should be reduced, EV are not the answer, and the current mindset of castigating owners of the very vehicles the fickle politicos only a few years ago were urging people to buy, will surely be repeated as soon as the next fad appears.

There are people who thing the glass is half full, others who think the glass is half empty.......personally speaking, I think the glass is twice the size it needs to be

While it is impossible to change the spin that is put on the blind rush towards the totalitarian introduction of vehicles that are "zero emission", it is nothing more than the "elite" as you put it forcing the "underdog" to tow the line, the line that increases the divide between rich and poor.

The only question is, at what point do we reach the dystopia promised in the film "Soylent Green", after all it's only just over two years until 2022

Brian
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