Thanks so much for your input. Yes the sunroof has leaked, interesting drain solution! No Brian, no cross through the engine pic. In park or neutral the car starts and runs if I use the jumper wire from the solenoid to the battery. Just total silence otherwise irrelevant of immobilizer position. I'll check the EWS over the next day or 2, work interfering again! Perhaps a starter button.....I think not. Thanks again, John
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