Waterless Coolant

irishgary · 16th October 2012, 21:00

Anyone tried this on the car, would it help with overheating, I have tried everything else as has my mechanic ?

Petetourer · 16th October 2012, 21:02

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Originally Posted by irishgary

Anyone tried this on the car, would it help with overheating, I have tried everything else as has my mechanic ?

Someone just finished watching wheeler dealers ?

irishgary · 16th October 2012, 21:04

Yeah Pete
Busted !
Never heard of it before

pinebob · 16th October 2012, 21:13

not cheap at £90 but it lasts for life so can only be good thing for suspect head gaskets as it builds no pressure in the system.

irishgary · 16th October 2012, 21:18

Interesting ? wish id had it six months ago !

SapperGB · 16th October 2012, 21:49

wouldnt trust it.

Despite it having a much higher boiling point, pure propylene glycol which is what this is, has a much lower specific heat capacity than water, almost half. While this means that it wont boil until it becomes much much hotter, it also will not dissipate heat as quick. This would effectively reduce the size of the radiator.

Trying to get this over in laymans terms, what it means is that once your engine temperature reaches a particular running temperature then the waterless coolant would be hotter than a traditional coolant would. not a problem as there is plenty of overhead before boiling but your fan would run a great deal more as the car would think it hotter than it should be.
This would also mean that the engine block would be hotter and therefore the oil. Im not sure if standard size oil coolers would help with this. I know a lot of oils are rated to over 200 degrees celcius but anyhting over 150 degrees would cause concern.

Jay160 · 16th October 2012, 21:56

theres two parts you have to buy for this .. there flush . which i think is roughly around half the price of the coolant

if i remember rightly it was around £14.00 a ltr when this was brought up in the tf section of the other site

Astraeus · 16th October 2012, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Jay160

theres two parts you have to buy for this .. there flush . which i think is roughly around half the price of the coolant

if i remember rightly it was around £14.00 a ltr when this was brought up in the tf section of the other site

Hi

I saw this too and wondered. However, I am always a bit suspicious of magic cures whatever the problem. Reckon the concerns re heat are a good point.

Chris

James.uk · 16th October 2012, 23:58

I looked into this stuff years ago, but the company making it, Evans, were USA based and didn't have an outlet in the UK.

They did agree to sell me some but the minimum amount was too large for me to handle or afford at that time..

It looked good stuff though.

They have website so look them up if you're interested.

http://www.evanscooling.com/
...

irishgary · 17th October 2012, 01:08

Thanks Sapper
Knew someone would come and explain it to me, looked at the main distributors site and this seems to be the prefered option for vintage cars, not much about modern ones. Im upgrading to a CDTI next month and hopefully will get alot more miles behind the wheel than the 340 !!! I managed this year with my 1.8 Classic. Been a dog since I got it, just one of those motors, despite over a grand being spent on it.

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irishgary Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 77 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yeah Pete Busted ! Never heard of it before

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pinebob Posted a thing or two rover75 cdt Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ALFORD lincolnshire Posts: 1,216 Thanks: 107 Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts	not cheap at £90 but it lasts for life so can only be good thing for suspect head gaskets as it builds no pressure in the system.

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irishgary Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 77 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Interesting ? wish id had it six months ago !

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SapperGB Posted a thing or two 2005 190 ZT-T SE Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dagenham Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	wouldnt trust it. Despite it having a much higher boiling point, pure propylene glycol which is what this is, has a much lower specific heat capacity than water, almost half. While this means that it wont boil until it becomes much much hotter, it also will not dissipate heat as quick. This would effectively reduce the size of the radiator. Trying to get this over in laymans terms, what it means is that once your engine temperature reaches a particular running temperature then the waterless coolant would be hotter than a traditional coolant would. not a problem as there is plenty of overhead before boiling but your fan would run a great deal more as the car would think it hotter than it should be. This would also mean that the engine block would be hotter and therefore the oil. Im not sure if standard size oil coolers would help with this. I know a lot of oils are rated to over 200 degrees celcius but anyhting over 150 degrees would cause concern.

17th October 2012, 01:08	#10
irishgary Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 77 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Sapper Knew someone would come and explain it to me, looked at the main distributors site and this seems to be the prefered option for vintage cars, not much about modern ones. Im upgrading to a CDTI next month and hopefully will get alot more miles behind the wheel than the 340 !!! I managed this year with my 1.8 Classic. Been a dog since I got it, just one of those motors, despite over a grand being spent on it.