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Old 17th March 2014, 19:20   #51
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The southern route seems more likely. The North would cover too many countries, I find it hard to believe that so many countries are so incompetent as to not spot it. I suppose it's possible but unlikely. I still think the pilot/s went a bit 'funny'.
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Old 17th March 2014, 19:58   #52
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I would suggest it had to be the northern route - The south had no possibility of landing or refueling before it crashed into the ocean. I don't believe suicide was a motive, why bother turning off squawk and ACARS? Why bother rerouting? How do two completely independent pilots collude to commit suicide or to steal the aircraft, when they didn't have an opportunity to prearrange it?

Sounds to me like one or more of the passengers got into the cockpit.
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Old 17th March 2014, 20:09   #53
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I would suggest it had to be the northern route - The south had no possibility of landing or refueling before it crashed into the ocean. I don't believe suicide was a motive, why bother turning off squawk and ACARS? Why bother rerouting? How do two completely independent pilots collude to commit suicide or to steal the aircraft, when they didn't have an opportunity to prearrange it?

Sounds to me like one or more of the passengers got into the cockpit.
It could have pre arranged, just not that particular flight I would think?

They could have colluded and then just waited until the right flight came up with them both on it?

Presumably they would fly together on other occasions even if they didn't know in advance?

Maybe...
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I would suggest it had to be the northern route - The south had no possibility of landing or refueling before it crashed into the ocean. I don't believe suicide was a motive, why bother turning off squawk and ACARS? Why bother rerouting? How do two completely independent pilots collude to commit suicide or to steal the aircraft, when they didn't have an opportunity to prearrange it?

Sounds to me like one or more of the passengers got into the cockpit.
I agree but that's a 'normal' way of looking at it, I doubt it was a 'normal' person that did this. I don't believe it landed anywhere, there's nowhere that it could land without it being reported.
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I agree but that's a 'normal' way of looking at it, I doubt it was a 'normal' person that did this. I don't believe it landed anywhere, there's nowhere that it could land without it being reported.
There have to be lots of places to secretly or otherwise land, within 3500 miles range, to the north of a line east and west.
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Lots of places, such as?
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There have to be lots of places to secretly or otherwise land, within 3500 miles range, to the north of a line east and west.
It would have to be somewhere pretty remote, it would have to fly fairly low for what 10 miles and then on to a substantial flat area at least, not sure you could risk landing a plane like that on an unmade surface?
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It would have to be somewhere pretty remote, it would have to fly fairly low for what 10 miles and then on to a substantial flat area at least, not sure you could risk landing a plane like that on an unmade surface?
Lots of flat areas, lots of remote wartime airfields, the idea might not have been to land and have the aircraft fit to take off again, so damage might have been acceptable.
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Lots of flat areas, lots of remote wartime airfields, the idea might not have been to land and have the aircraft fit to take off again, so damage might have been acceptable.
Just hope that the people on board are somewhere alive and that they stand a chance of surviving...

Lots of questions to come out of this, one way or another...
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Lots of flat areas, lots of remote wartime airfields, the idea might not have been to land and have the aircraft fit to take off again, so damage might have been acceptable.
I wouldn't be surprised about anything, but what would they crash land for? I wonder what their end game was. Money or politics is my guess.
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