Facelift headlights - compatability

marks100 · 9th February 2018, 10:21

Hi there,

My facelift tourer has xenon lights (XBC002810 and XBC002800), the passenger side has a fault so the beam is pointing too low and the adjusters are not working correctly. I will take it out and have a tinker with it to see if it is fixable. However as Rimmers currently have replacements listed as £540.00 each, if I am not successful can I substitute a matched pair of projectors from a R75 or MG ZT? I.e. Are the plugs the same for the different types of lights?

Many thanks for any insight anyone can offer.

Mark S.

suzublu · 9th February 2018, 10:25

The self levelling arms may have flipped, check the o/side suspension arms for an "L" shaped arm. The lights are interchangeable between models.

kelvo · 9th February 2018, 10:28

My first thought is they would not be directly interchangeable as the Xenons have automatic levelling but halogen or projectors have manual adjustment from the thumb wheel next to the light switch. Not sure if the loom etc is different.

Probably pick up a set of Xenons of Ebay.

Avulon · 9th February 2018, 12:46

suzublu said they are interchangeable. It's true that halogens as standard have the thumbwheel adjuster for the driver to operate - but doesn't matter if you have self levelling thats fine with halogens. The wiring at the lights end is the same for both types.

Just a note - the picture in suzublu's post is of the adjustment arm 'flipped' it should be the other way i.e. forming a parrallelogram with the suspension arm.

suzublu · 9th February 2018, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avulon

suzublu said they are interchangeable. It's true that halogens as standard have the thumbwheel adjuster for the driver to operate - but doesn't matter if you have self levelling thats fine with halogens. The wiring at the lights end is the same for both types.

Just a note - the picture in suzublu's post is of the adjustment arm 'flipped' it should be the other way i.e. forming a parrallelogram with the suspension arm.

Voila!!!

NigelOBB · 9th February 2018, 13:34

There’s a chance the adjustment arm might be seized. It happened to mine and sheared the bracket off..

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marks100 · 9th February 2018, 16:25

Thanks for the replies, I think the self leveling is OK as both lights do the "self test" correctly, but I will check. The reflector looks a bit low in the passenger light and I cannot get the allen keyed adjusters to work, so feel there is something not quite right in the lamp itself. Anyway I have the other information I need so that is very helpful.

Regards,

Mark S.

suzublu · 9th February 2018, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by marks100

Thanks for the replies, I think the self leveling is OK as both lights do the "self test" correctly, but I will check. The reflector looks a bit low in the passenger light and I cannot get the allen keyed adjusters to work, so feel there is something not quite right in the lamp itself. Anyway I have the other information I need so that is very helpful.

Regards,

Mark S.

Self test has nothing to do with the levelling

Maybe the plastic clips inside have come adrift, they are a sort of ball & socket affair

Yorkshire GOC · 9th February 2018, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelvo

My first thought is they would not be directly interchangeable as the Xenons have automatic levelling but halogen or projectors have manual adjustment from the thumb wheel next to the light switch. Not sure if the loom etc is different.

Probably pick up a set of Xenons of Ebay.

I did - for far less than the Rimmer price (£200) and which Trikey fitted a few years ago .

stevestrat · 9th February 2018, 18:16

If the adjuster has failed, mine did due to corrosion between the geared wheel and the rod, there is a fix. I can assure you it works well, has done on mine for years!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-M

Not sure if you can get the cogs separately, but when the adjuster worked loose on mine I did a 'quick fix' using the inside of a cable terminal block like this...

You just need the inside of one connector, then cut it in half so you have a short hollow block with a single screw in it. Slip it over the end of the adjuster rod and then use a pair of pliers to pull the adjuster rod out of the back of the lamp until it's at the correct height (line the beam up against a wall and compare it with the other side). Once it's in the correct position tighted the screw so that the rod is held in place.

It's just about do-able single handed, but easier if you can get someone else to tighten up the screw while you keep the light in position.

BTW - The 'quick fix' is still there 6 momths later!

9th February 2018, 10:21	#1
marks100 Newbie Rover 75 Facelift Auto Tourer Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Telford Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Facelift headlights - compatability Hi there, My facelift tourer has xenon lights (XBC002810 and XBC002800), the passenger side has a fault so the beam is pointing too low and the adjusters are not working correctly. I will take it out and have a tinker with it to see if it is fixable. However as Rimmers currently have replacements listed as £540.00 each, if I am not successful can I substitute a matched pair of projectors from a R75 or MG ZT? I.e. Are the plugs the same for the different types of lights? Many thanks for any insight anyone can offer. Mark S.

9th February 2018, 12:46	#4
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	suzublu said they are interchangeable. It's true that halogens as standard have the thumbwheel adjuster for the driver to operate - but doesn't matter if you have self levelling thats fine with halogens. The wiring at the lights end is the same for both types. Just a note - the picture in suzublu's post is of the adjustment arm 'flipped' it should be the other way i.e. forming a parrallelogram with the suspension arm. __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

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suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,954 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	The self levelling arms may have flipped, check the o/side suspension arms for an "L" shaped arm. The lights are interchangeable between models.

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kelvo Gets stuck in MG ZT 190 SE Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 569 Thanks: 22 Thanked 163 Times in 135 Posts	My first thought is they would not be directly interchangeable as the Xenons have automatic levelling but halogen or projectors have manual adjustment from the thumb wheel next to the light switch. Not sure if the loom etc is different. Probably pick up a set of Xenons of Ebay.

9th February 2018, 16:25	#7
marks100 Newbie Rover 75 Facelift Auto Tourer Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Telford Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the replies, I think the self leveling is OK as both lights do the "self test" correctly, but I will check. The reflector looks a bit low in the passenger light and I cannot get the allen keyed adjusters to work, so feel there is something not quite right in the lamp itself. Anyway I have the other information I need so that is very helpful. Regards, Mark S.