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9th June 2018, 06:35 | #31 | |
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HGV's speedometers are calibrated giving the impression of speeding to a car driver especially in roadworks where the speed limits are typically 50 moh or less. |
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9th June 2018, 06:42 | #32 | |
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So how do we explain the fact that lorries are constantly causing obstructions on multi-lane roads by attempting to overtake each other whilst travelling at materially the same speed as the other? I don't think we can get away from the fact that, whilst most lorry drivers have exceptional skills, the majority tend to be reckless in relation to driving safely and with due respect for other road traffic. Rather than automation, the best we can do with lorries is to link them up and have a single driver. Then put them on their own road away from other traffic. One could even give the ensemble of engine and trailers it's own name - a train perhaps! Last edited by MSS; 9th June 2018 at 06:46.. |
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9th June 2018, 10:05 | #33 |
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Its on the m1 as well by luton it all a big problem no one pays any notice of them. I am by the m25 and l have see drivers in lanes that have been closed still doing 50+mph them just don't give a rats bum.
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9th June 2018, 12:35 | #34 | |
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Why not get rid of trucks altogether, of course the railways can deliver to all the factories and supermarkets etc. |
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9th June 2018, 12:59 | #35 | |
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9th June 2018, 13:29 | #36 |
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Yesterday lunch I was on the A168, between Thirsk and the A1, towing the caravan back home. I got stuck in a jam, where a truck had obviously hit 'something' and the 'something' had burst into flames.
Short stopping distances scare the h*ll out of me, but I can fully understand why they have to do it - there is only so much space on the road, the spacing has to be tight, to get the number of vehicles past a certain point. The faster they go and the tighter the spacing, the more vehicles per hour are able to pass a certain point. Lorries do have to be able to overtake, despite the time it might take them. The fully laden ones will slow up on the long hills, the less heavily loaded then must overtake. The UK's population is very densely packed, there is not much room to expand roads, so the ones we do have are tightly packed. Public transport is nowhere as good as it needs to be, so people use their cars. Rail is a slow and expensive means to get items from one point to another, so bulk transport goes on the road. Road took goods away from rail, for these very reasons in the middle of the last century - hence the enforced closure of so many lines and Beeching. We used to have a 'Red Star' rail parcels system, dropped and collected from rail - but even that stopped decades ago as unviable.
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The problem is that in reality they actually demonstrate how similar the performance is between the truck attempting to overtake and the ones being overtaken by the number of miles consumed by the maneuver thus holding up traffic behind them. |
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9th June 2018, 13:44 | #38 |
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The problem with a lot of lorries is just that, lots of 'em. The elephant race on an incline sees two or even three abreast with none easing off to pull in behind the one to his left. All limited to approx. 56 in a 70 means a delay to all those following. It also means they get to the top all at the same time anyway! Not much in the real world I know but you'd think that at least one would submit to road sense. After all most of the drivers have training far beyond basic licence standard.
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I join the M6 at J4 north around 15:30 most days. Generally the hard shoulder is open to traffic at that time and theres a 60 limit. I always take lane -1 (hard shoulder) and only a fraction of other vehilcles do. Most lorries stay in (real) lane 1. I set cruise to the gantry speed limt but then start to creep up the inside of wagons. I generally hold back from undertaking but usually a sprinter will come up behind and intimidate me to undertake. You just cant win. |
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10th June 2018, 07:22 | #40 |
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Hey, a whole can of worms .
If ALL road users maintained a safe stopping distance I wonder how that might affect the collision rate? I'm not trying to incite a riot from our trucker friends on here, I'm trying to understand the reasons, but what is the reason a vast number of you can't maintain a safe stopping distance? I don't accept the "we're speed limited" argument. What's the difference between travelling at 56ish mph a cars length behind another vehicle and 56ish mph several hundred metres behind another vehicle? The choice of speed/distance is surely down to the driver? If that means you can't safely stop then erm.....back off. If that adds some journey time then so be it. As we have just seen perhaps the driver could choose to stay far too close resulting in them killing someone and ending up in prison. Also, what is the reason that a truck journey (at 56ish mph) is more "important" (or whatever the reason) than any other road users such that the drivers are happy to perform an overtake which results in a vast tailback of other road users who can quite legally travel much faster? I don't understand the thought process that chooses to perform an overtake that effectively blocks the road, frustrating a large number of other drivers with their own "important" journeys. I look forward to being educated. Thanks. Andy. Last edited by AndyN01; 10th June 2018 at 07:32.. |
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