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Could that be the high risk of being murdered, limbs removed, close family disposed of etc? Look at our history: has not our scientific and cultural knowledge to say nothing of a multitude of energetic small businesses been started and enhanced by immigrants? Doesn't the fella in no. 10 have some Turkish roots? (OK can't win 'em all).
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As to the risk of being murdered, how likely is that in France (as one example of a western European country)? The fact that France receives three times as many asylum applications as the UK would suggest that the vast majority of arrivals feel perfectly safe there. |
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This "tragic" situation would not exist if we had a robust border control and the illegal immigrants were treated as such. Genuine assylum seekers do not need to enter the country via these dangerous routes. If they can afford to pay thousands to people smugglers, they can afford to enter in a legal fashion via the proper routes using legal papers and passports.I would never make fun of a tragic situation but of our way of dealing with and policing our border.
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Well yes, but: "Johnson's paternal grandfather Osman Wilfred Kemal, was born to Ali Kemal’s first wife Winifred Brun, an Anglo-Swiss woman, while the Kuneralp siblings came from Kemal’s second marriage with Sabiha Hanim, a Turkish woman, who was the daughter of a prominent Ottoman pasha." And . . . according to another website (FindMyPast) he and Cameron (remember him?) are both distantly related to King George 11 but via an illegitimate line. Make of that what you will.
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One of the attractions might just be the attitude to women, particularly girls. I imagine, in my admitted naivety, that fathers all over the world might be as protective of their children as we are.
To whit: one of our MP's is currently presenting a bill for a new law to make illegal a particularly intrusive medical examination of young girls about to marry. Some of them very young. I'm told the bill has only to go through the Lord's to be on the statute book. No need to go into details I'm sure, but such invasive treatment is horrific and is, as I understand it, endemic in certain areas of the country. Why else would the children be in those boats?
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