Non working windows - sorted (for now)

75driver · 25th November 2023, 18:38

FIL has just had problems with non working windows on front driver side and both rears.
Front passenger side was only working off Its own switchpack.
The mirror operation from the drivers switch pack was ok, and the wee red LED was illuminated but replaced drivers switch pack anyway as an easy check - no difference.

Toaf showed this…

But was able to make all windows go up and down with TOAF….so that meant all motors were still operating. Good!

Checked for continuity on all fuses in passenger footwell and under bonnet fuse box.
2 handed operation on your back in the passenger footwell is no easy task, but anyway….- all good.

Eventually I just put a bit of pressure on the rubber loom / connector that goes between the door and the car chassis.

Normal operation resumed…..for now.🙄🤞🤞

If only I’d tried that first.😆

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Mike Noc · 25th November 2023, 22:54

I've seen corrosion of the contacts in that plug a few years back. Cleaned it up and sprayed it with a bit of WD40 and it has been ok since

planenut · 26th November 2023, 06:17

As I have a defective horn (no comments please) at the moment, I too have been on a search. I have checked all fuses and relays, had the grilles out, horns off, checked all wiring, front bumper off and then checked all those wires and connections to the multiplug, but with no luck.

Now with your comments, will next go to that multiplug you mentioned Sean, before taking internal panels off beneath the steering wheel. As you said, back to contortionist mode.

Mike Noc · 26th November 2023, 08:20

When I had that on Mrs Noc's car it was the rotary coupling breaking down Fred.

planenut · 26th November 2023, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

When I had that on Mrs Noc's car it was the rotary coupling breaking down Fred.

Now there's a thing, what on earth is one of those Mike?

Mike Noc · 27th November 2023, 12:57

Sits under the steering wheel Fred - commonly called a clock spring, although on our cars it isn't an accurate description as the ribbon folds back on itself.

It takes the various signals from the wheel buttons to where they are needed.
Easy enough to replace but you need to ensure that both the wheel and the coupling are both in their mid positions before fitting.

First noticed it on Mrs Noc's car when the cruise resume button failed, but seeing as she never uses cruise control I didn't bother with it. Then the horn buttons failed so I fixed it.

planenut · 27th November 2023, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Sits under the steering wheel Fred - commonly called a clock spring, although on our cars it isn't an accurate description as the ribbon folds back on itself.

It takes the various signals from the wheel buttons to where they are needed.
Easy enough to replace but you need to ensure that both the wheel and the coupling are both in their mid positions before fitting.

First noticed it on Mrs Noc's car when the cruise resume button failed, but seeing as she never uses cruise control I didn't bother with it. Then the horn buttons failed so I fixed it.

Many thanks Mike, ignore the PM.
Sean, sorry to hijack your thread.
Fred (planenut)

25th November 2023, 18:38	#1
75driver Posted a thing or two Rover 75 saloon, manual. Rover 75 Tourer, Auto. Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Newry Posts: 1,784 Thanks: 574 Thanked 443 Times in 371 Posts	Non working windows - sorted (for now) FIL has just had problems with non working windows on front driver side and both rears. Front passenger side was only working off Its own switchpack. The mirror operation from the drivers switch pack was ok, and the wee red LED was illuminated but replaced drivers switch pack anyway as an easy check - no difference. Toaf showed this… But was able to make all windows go up and down with TOAF….so that meant all motors were still operating. Good! Checked for continuity on all fuses in passenger footwell and under bonnet fuse box. 2 handed operation on your back in the passenger footwell is no easy task, but anyway….- all good. Eventually I just put a bit of pressure on the rubber loom / connector that goes between the door and the car chassis. Normal operation resumed…..for now.🙄🤞🤞 If only I’d tried that first.😆 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2006 75 Contemporary SE diesel manual (#1) 2003 75T Connoisseur SE diesel auto (For Comfort) 2005 75 Connoisseur SE diesel auto (Marmite duotone ) 2006 75 Connoisseur SE diesel auto (The last one?) 2009 E220 (For a change) 2018 L200 (For Big & Heavy Things) 1976 W114 250 Manual (For Sundays)

25th November 2023, 22:54	#2
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,579 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	I've seen corrosion of the contacts in that plug a few years back. Cleaned it up and sprayed it with a bit of WD40 and it has been ok since

26th November 2023, 06:17	#3
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 7,013 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	As I have a defective horn (no comments please) at the moment, I too have been on a search. I have checked all fuses and relays, had the grilles out, horns off, checked all wiring, front bumper off and then checked all those wires and connections to the multiplug, but with no luck. Now with your comments, will next go to that multiplug you mentioned Sean, before taking internal panels off beneath the steering wheel. As you said, back to contortionist mode.

26th November 2023, 08:20	#4
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,579 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	When I had that on Mrs Noc's car it was the rotary coupling breaking down Fred.

27th November 2023, 12:57	#6
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,579 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Sits under the steering wheel Fred - commonly called a clock spring, although on our cars it isn't an accurate description as the ribbon folds back on itself. It takes the various signals from the wheel buttons to where they are needed. Easy enough to replace but you need to ensure that both the wheel and the coupling are both in their mid positions before fitting. First noticed it on Mrs Noc's car when the cruise resume button failed, but seeing as she never uses cruise control I didn't bother with it. Then the horn buttons failed so I fixed it.