Electric Vehicles - Page 2

Bogbrush82 · 2nd October 2022, 10:08

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Originally Posted by MSS

It is not unthinkable that all journeys by personal transport, other then sel-powered, for purposes other than going to/from work and shopping for basic necssities will be banned or heavily taxed to the extent that they could only be undertaken by the top 1% of wealth owners.

Not going to happen. Alot of company cars do long motorway distances. Tax that to oblivion and the company will just move to a different country where tax would be lower, which would cost the government a lot more in the long run.

Lancpudn · 2nd October 2022, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Bogbrush82

Not going to happen. Alot of company cars do long motorway distances. Tax that to oblivion and the company will just move to a different country where tax would be lower, which would cost the government a lot more in the long run.

There's been a dramatic decline in company car drivers with a 10% YOY decline with data showing 80000 fewer company car drivers.

. https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/com...ny-car-drivers

Lancpudn · 2nd October 2022, 11:18

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Originally Posted by bl52krz

No. they suffer from running out of go go juice before they have chance to suffer anything more than having to wait to charge batteries on a medium journey. No good for real driving, only round the town or local. That then makes them extremely dear to buy and run. I would not like to try to go continent hopping like we do in the Rover diesel. Take days longer to cover any distance.

The progress of battery technology is astounding lately with improvements happening on a monthly basis, The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has 800V architecture & can charge 100km in 5 minutes. Take this new Chinese SAIC brand Feifan R derived from the (Roewe) brand, Depending on the model/battery pack the range is 606km or 642km with a 0-60 time from 3.8 seconds that would embarrass a Ferrari

with a price tag of £25,518 in China, Rumored to be coming to Europe next year. https://carnewschina.com/2022/09/28/...-at-28500-usd/

Number 6 · 2nd October 2022, 12:19

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Originally Posted by MSS

EVs do not suffer HGF!

No they dont, BUT they do seem to Self Combust

Bogbrush82 · 2nd October 2022, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Lancpudn

The progress of battery technology is astounding lately with improvements happening on a monthly basis, The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has 800V architecture & can charge 100km in 5 minutes. Take this new Chinese SAIC brand Feifan R derived from the (Roewe) brand, Depending on the model/battery pack the range is 606km or 642km with a 0-60 time from 3.8 seconds that would embarrass a Ferrari

with a price tag of £25,518 in China, Rumored to be coming to Europe next year. https://carnewschina.com/2022/09/28/...-at-28500-usd/

Sounds nice on paper, but when you realise that's still 40 miles less than a 2.0 KV6.......

Maybe if companies stopped concentrating on 0 to 60 times and spent more time on range it'd be different.

sworks · 2nd October 2022, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Bogbrush82

Maybe if companies stopped concentrating on 0 to 60 times and spent more time on range it'd be different.

The thing with 0/60 times is that they are incidental with electric cars, manufacturers don’t go all out for performance they are looking for the best range possible from the size of battery that can be used in the allowed space. The 0/60 times are good as an electric motor generates its maximum output instantly if you stamp on the accelerator.

bikerdude666 · 2nd October 2022, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Number 6

No they dont, BUT they do seem to Self Combust

As do petrol and diesel cars. A few 75's and ZT's have burnt out, and wasn't is the Vauxhall Zafira that had to be recalled because several decided to go up in flames?

bl52krz · 2nd October 2022, 18:58

Sorry Maninder, But all this gobbledegook about global warming being caused by our use of I.C.E. vehicles, is nothing more than scare tactics. Can you tell me what is happening at the South Pole? No? Well let me tell you. The ice shelf has been getting thicker and larger for the last two years. How do you and the ‘believers ‘ explain that away? There are many more things I could tell you to look for, but I am to sick and tired of telling people to follow the real news, not the ‘global warming’ sycophants chanting. Sheep come to mind. Do you remember the little girl telling everyone that we only had TWO years before it is too late? Once again frantic whipping of the sycophants. Well again, that was a non starter. It’s over two years now, and what has changed? Nothing, only Russia has invaded Ukraine, which will have more of an affect on global warming than anything we can do. The world is going mad. .

wizzo337 · 8th October 2022, 07:30

I see these electric cars as a sort of trap, they are put there to limit your freedom of travel. Let's face it, all new chargers that are installed now have to be of the smart variety which can be controlled from central government, they have even talked about taking the charge back out of cars to supplement the power grid in times of need. Now I know there are many ev drivers out there that say, they are great, cheap to run and all that. Look to the past and the deisel car trap, when it used to be cheaper than petrol, so everyone bought one and then the government put the price up. Now they sell the ev purporting that it is better for the environment and reduces carbon emissions, this is all bs, the climate change thing is a farce, we need co2, we are carbon based lifeforms, plants take in the co2 and synthesise it into oxygen. The planet follows its natural cycle of warming up and cooling down, did co2 reduce during the stupid lockdowns we had, the simple answer is, no. We're being had again.
Just a thought and totally my opinion
I love my fossil fuelled cars and hopefully am old enough to be gone during the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- to come.

KWIL · 8th October 2022, 09:13

Same goes for the pathetic response to the proposed new oil/gas exploration licences.

Better source "home" oil/gas than importing it, we are already using oil/gas from abroard as well as "home".

One last point, so called fossil fuels are also the chemical feedstock necessary for many other things we currently need, not just as a power source.

2nd October 2022, 18:58	#18
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,445 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	Sorry Maninder, But all this gobbledegook about global warming being caused by our use of I.C.E. vehicles, is nothing more than scare tactics. Can you tell me what is happening at the South Pole? No? Well let me tell you. The ice shelf has been getting thicker and larger for the last two years. How do you and the ‘believers ‘ explain that away? There are many more things I could tell you to look for, but I am to sick and tired of telling people to follow the real news, not the ‘global warming’ sycophants chanting. Sheep come to mind. Do you remember the little girl telling everyone that we only had TWO years before it is too late? Once again frantic whipping of the sycophants. Well again, that was a non starter. It’s over two years now, and what has changed? Nothing, only Russia has invaded Ukraine, which will have more of an affect on global warming than anything we can do. The world is going mad. . __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.

8th October 2022, 07:30	#19
wizzo337 Loves to post mg zt Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ely Posts: 288 Thanks: 55 Thanked 87 Times in 52 Posts	Trap I see these electric cars as a sort of trap, they are put there to limit your freedom of travel. Let's face it, all new chargers that are installed now have to be of the smart variety which can be controlled from central government, they have even talked about taking the charge back out of cars to supplement the power grid in times of need. Now I know there are many ev drivers out there that say, they are great, cheap to run and all that. Look to the past and the deisel car trap, when it used to be cheaper than petrol, so everyone bought one and then the government put the price up. Now they sell the ev purporting that it is better for the environment and reduces carbon emissions, this is all bs, the climate change thing is a farce, we need co2, we are carbon based lifeforms, plants take in the co2 and synthesise it into oxygen. The planet follows its natural cycle of warming up and cooling down, did co2 reduce during the stupid lockdowns we had, the simple answer is, no. We're being had again. Just a thought and totally my opinion I love my fossil fuelled cars and hopefully am old enough to be gone during the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- to come.

8th October 2022, 09:13	#20
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,976 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Same goes for the pathetic response to the proposed new oil/gas exploration licences. Better source "home" oil/gas than importing it, we are already using oil/gas from abroard as well as "home". One last point, so called fossil fuels are also the chemical feedstock necessary for many other things we currently need, not just as a power source.