Oil breather pipes blocked, advice please - Page 2

Brek · 16th March 2012, 23:08

I'm not quite there yet (mental breakdown that is) well jsut done 220 miles in her and ful economy was good, just nudged the half way mark on the gauge so happy with that, before I set off got the guys at quick fit to put it on the ramp and the noise is the flexi pipe on its way out, my bodged repair has held fast, if fact I think is good enough to leave on. need to replace the thinner pipe though as it has snapped into 3 pieces so had to leave the acoustic cover off as its very short now the cable that is. As an aside there are a lot of mg's outside the travel lodge, wonder if they are here for the same reason I am. Apologies if my exhaust disturbed your sleep.

Arctic · 17th March 2012, 00:49

I changed two out of the three pipes for a chap who works in the doctors by me only thursday saw me working on my car and came over saying his car was not running right took a look under the bonnet only to find both pipes being held together with insulation tape

lucky for him i had two spare in the shed, off he drove to his next doctors call nice smile on his face am waiting now for him to come back and say this is not working now etc

time will tell.

lovema75 · 17th March 2012, 00:57

I am about to put my manifold back on, and the above mentioned T piece on the breather pipes is broken, so I was going to rig a repair.

If the engine will run fine with the pipes vented to the atmosphere and the inlet opening blanked off, will that cause problems at the MOT?

I could just lengthen the pipes so that they run down the bulkhead and end underneath to prevent fumes entering the cabin.

stocktake · 17th March 2012, 06:40

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Originally Posted by lovema75

I am about to put my manifold back on, and the above mentioned T piece on the breather pipes is broken, so I was going to rig a repair.

If the engine will run fine with the pipes vented to the atmosphere and the inlet opening blanked off, will that cause problems at the MOT?

I could just lengthen the pipes so that they run down the bulkhead and end underneath to prevent fumes entering the cabin.

Well you could, but why would you? new is under £20

lovema75 · 17th March 2012, 07:47

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Originally Posted by stocktake

Well you could, but why would you? new is under £20

Yes I know it sounds a bit silly, but I was thinking that it would prevent all that oily gunge passing through the inlet manifold.

Plus I need the car for monday...

SD1too · 17th March 2012, 07:52

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Originally Posted by rover54

The only reason the crankcase breather pipes are feed back into the engine via the throttle body is because of EU emission regulations ... How do I know, I spent quite a few years developing vehicle engines and before the EU regulations, crackcase breathers were open to atmosphere.

Ed,

I'm sorry but I have to challenge you on that statement. Crankcase breather pipes were sealed into the intake system before the EU was invented!

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Our engines will run quite happerly if pipes are removed and throttle body opening is blanked off with the crankcase open to atmosphere via the black pipework NO DAMAGE WILL OCCUR.

Anyone who does that is an irresponsible bodger.

Damage may not be caused to the engine, but what about the environment? I'm sorry Ed but you should not advise people to run their engines in a state which emits combustion products and oil fumes into the atmosphere.

If the breather pipes fail they should be replaced. £20 is hardly a lot of money compared with a tank of fuel, insurance, road tax or a set of flashy alloys.

Simon.

lovema75 · 17th March 2012, 08:01

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Ed,

I'm sorry but I have to challenge you on that statement. Crankcase breather pipes were sealed into the intake system before the EU was invented!

Anyone who does that is an irresponsible bodger.

Damage may not be caused to the engine, but what about the environment? I'm sorry Ed but you should not advise people to run their engines in a state which emits combustion products and oil fumes into the atmosphere.

If the breather pipes fail they should be replaced. £20 is hardly a lot of money compared with a tank of fuel, insurance, road tax or a set of flashy alloys.

Simon.

I shall consider myself chastened and repair the pipes.

stocktake · 17th March 2012, 08:10

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Originally Posted by lovema75

Plus I need the car for monday...

Totally agree with that, been there myself

MangoMan · 17th March 2012, 09:37

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Originally Posted by Rabett_Rover

Buy a new one from Rimmer Bros (number 3 on the diagram) would be my advise.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID999773

OR..........

you can buy the Landy one, exactly the same but much cheaper!..... http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-LLH102660L

Actually, nearly half the price.... This is what I did when I needed a new one....

Fusilier · 17th March 2012, 09:39

I bought the landy one, and they fit perfectly, and as you say are much cheaper.

Stu

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lovema75 This is my second home 75 Tourer CDT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Enfield Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 63 Thanked 431 Times in 237 Posts	I am about to put my manifold back on, and the above mentioned T piece on the breather pipes is broken, so I was going to rig a repair. If the engine will run fine with the pipes vented to the atmosphere and the inlet opening blanked off, will that cause problems at the MOT? I could just lengthen the pipes so that they run down the bulkhead and end underneath to prevent fumes entering the cabin.