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Old 26th November 2015, 08:32   #11
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So can you do better - or even elected?
This is a good question and IMO - the key one. The problem we have in the UK is that the political elite of whatever party are all spawned from the same gene pool. And all of them seem to be from the shallow end.

I have for some years tried to vote for good Independent candidates who represent LOCAL issues. The Whip system means that true democracy is destroyed in my view.

I would like to see the Whip system abolished - every vote in the HoC should be a free vote.

It will be interesting to see if Corbyn allows a free vote on the vote on the bombing of Syria. If he doesn't and the vote support within Labour for our bombing of IS in Syria as well as Iraq is high - then it will effectively be a vote of no confidence.
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Old 26th November 2015, 08:43   #12
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Well i would abolish road fund which would help you with that fleet of cars you have .
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Old 26th November 2015, 09:04   #13
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99.9 percent of them have a second house that is bought for them by the taxpayer. They get £74,000/£15000 plus expenses a year and most of the other things they buy and say they need is also put on expences, I even read that one of then claimed for a news paper and a other a light bulb. Those free-loaders don't have a clue how to run the country, because the majority of them come from rich family's and have never worked in their life, yet they will happily cut the working man's wage to the bone and not give a dam about the affect on how he will manage, but don't kid yourselves they are no Clowns, they are the scum of the world, that want to live for free and let us pay for them and their families but what is our alternative, I don't know, do you???
Osborne is a smarmy smug toff .

And as for his opposite number producing Mao,s red book thats just laughable.

Whats the alternative ??? More of the same as Doodles would say .
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Well i would abolish road fund which would help you with that fleet of cars you have .
And will the Rt Honorable Lord Flyer please abolish "Pasty tax"?
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On takeaway yes but not for sit in .
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On takeaway yes but not for sit in .
You're a hard man Lord Flyer. I'll support you but you must be in coalition with the Rt Honorable Lord Cool-Cat.
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You're a hard man Lord Flyer. I'll support you but you must be in coalition with the Rt Honorable Lord Cool-Cat.
He would be one of those old duffers that nod off during a debate.
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Much more interesting than those clowns
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Saw this today re Tim Yeo - an MP who has many questions to answer re his influence on "Green Taxes" applied to all of us to pay for the Feed In Tariffs that make the likes of Yeo and his cronies richer by the minute.

The Sunday Times did a "Sting" on Yeo and showed him in all his money grabbing sleazy glory..........

So Yeo tried to bluff it out and took the Sunday Times to Court for Libel.

He lost.

"Tim Yeo's libel action against the Sunday Times has failed. You will recall that this was over the newspaper's sting operation, in which Yeo was caught on camera offering to be a paid advocate for what he thought were a group of green lobbyists.

The Sunday Times has reported that Yeo's evidence was dismissed by the judge as:

“implausible”, “unreliable”, “not honest”,”dishonest”, “untruthful”, “untrue” and “unworthy of belief”."


OUCH! - That has to hurt.......

And now the Times is reporting that Tim Yeo is being investigated for perjury, after his libel case against the Sunday Times was thrown out last week.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/law/article4625177.ece
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