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Old 3rd May 2016, 06:19   #11
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Thanks for the info Dave.

The only bits I've got are the low line switch pack (YUB100591PUY) and the big mounting bracket (XQU000410) - so I need a loom, a nav computer and a speaker.

I can't find anyone advertising nav computer YIB000150 - is there another p/n that will work?

Do you know if there's a p/n for the loom?
I have added more pictures and a list of what you will need.

I believe it's only the YIB000150 that will work, the nav discs are the same for both the Hi and Low Line systems.

I don't think the loom is available new so I would ask a trader on here if he can remove the loom from a breaker. Make sure you get the loom from the nav pack to the green mini iso plug.

I would have made the loom but some of the plugs are difficult to find.

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Old 3rd May 2016, 14:05   #12
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I have added more pictures and a list of what you will need.

I believe it's only the YIB000150 that will work, the nav discs are the same for both the Hi and Low Line systems.

I don't think the loom is available new so I would ask a trader on here if he can remove the loom from a breaker. Make sure you get the loom from the nav pack to the green mini iso plug.

I would have made the loom but some of the plugs are difficult to find.

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Thanks for all the extra pics & the list Dave. Here's my state of play:
  1. A IPK with the message center. YES - mine gives messages such as 'boot open' 'door open' etc, etc.
  2. A Symphony radio with Low Line nav pack. YES - I have the switch/button pack YUB100591PUY.
  3. A nav computer YIB 000150 NO - I used to have a nav comp as part of a High Line kit but it had a different p/n ** (I sold it anyway).
  4. A loom from the symphony to the Low Line nav computer, with GPS aerial. NO.
  5. A loom from the Symphony nav pack to the green mini ISO plug. NO.
  6. A bracket for the nav computer [off side boot]. YES. I have XQU000410.
** The nav computer I had was a YIB100031 and I've found a YIB000160 for sale. Are we sure that neither of these will work for Low Line?

Are 4 and 5 one single loom - or two separate items?

Is there any particular trader I should ask?


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Thanks for all the extra pics & the list Dave. Here's my state of play:
  1. A IPK with the message center. YES - mine gives messages such as 'boot open' 'door open' etc, etc.
  2. A Symphony radio with Low Line nav pack. YES - I have the switch/button pack YUB100591PUY.
  3. A nav computer YIB 000150 NO - I used to have a nav comp as part of a High Line kit but it had a different p/n ** (I sold it anyway).
  4. A loom from the symphony to the Low Line nav computer, with GPS aerial. NO.
  5. A loom from the Symphony nav pack to the green mini ISO plug. NO.
  6. A bracket for the nav computer [off side boot]. YES. I have XQU000410.
** The nav computer I had was a YIB100031 and I've found a YIB000160 for sale. Are we sure that neither of these will work for Low Line?

Are 4 and 5 one single loom - or two separate items?

Is there any particular trader I should ask?

4 and 5 are definitely two separate looms.

I cannot say for sure if the YIB 000160 will work on the Low Line system.

I got my loom from Mickyboy, the nav bracket is on it's way from Holland314, maybe a pm to all the traders who break 75's.

Patience seems to be the watchword when it comes to the Low Line system. I don't think the system was as popular as the Hi Line system.

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4 and 5 are definitely two separate looms.

I cannot say for sure if the YIB 000160 will work on the Low Line system.

I got my loom from Mickyboy, the nav bracket is on it's way from Holland314, maybe a pm to all the traders who break 75's.

Patience seems to be the watchword when it comes to the Low Line system. I don't think the system was as popular as the Hi Line system.

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Ok, I'll PM the traders once I've sussed out which ones break 75s.




Re the navigation computer, Rimmers have a High Line page and a Low Line page - they list these respective part numbers:
  • High Line: YIB100031, YIB000260, YIB000160
  • Low Line: YIB100020, YIB000250, YIB000150
I don't know how to find out if YIB000160 will work on a Low Line system without buying it and trying it in a system.




Dave - I've PMd Mickyboy to see if he can help.


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Just found this part number info. It's from a technical bulletin called TB0021 and it describes how to change a Mk2 navigation computer for a Mk3. It confirms that YIB000150 and YIB000160 are Mk3 nav computers - 150 for Low Line and 160 for High Line.


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would hi line loom be of any use at all..are some parts /plugs the same ? I have a (almost complete) hi line loom in a box of bits in the garage...I think one plug ( used by both hi line and harmon kardon ) i know for certain is missing...
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I have added more pictures and a list of what you will need.
Dave - just spotted this. Shouldn't YWY100240 be on the list of items?

It's the GPS receiver and it's on Rimmers' Low Line page at no.3 http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID001661

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would hi line loom be of any use at all.....
It might be. Can you post a list with part numbers?

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It might be. Can you post a list with part numbers?
Ill dig it out and take a pic Simon ...dave will know if its of any use i believe ...

Hopefully you can see all the different plugs http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...1&d=1462291710

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Hi Dave,

Your initial post has been added to the How-To's With a link back to here
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Dave - just spotted this. Shouldn't YWY100240 be on the list of items?

It's the GPS receiver and it's on Rimmers' Low Line page at no.3 http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID001661



It might be. Can you post a list with part numbers?
The part marked is a Trimble used in the early installs of both the Hi and Low line systems, used as a interface unit between the GPS aerial and the sat nav computer. Later models YIB000150 had the interface built into the sat nav computer.



Maybe a different sat nav computer, with a trimble will work ok. You will also need a loom from the trimble to the nav computer.

This is the earlier Low Line computer, note it does not have a socket for the GPS aerial. I don't know the model number of this earlier model.



A Hi Line computer will not work in a Low Line system and vice versa.

I have to add that I have found that there is another sat nav computer that will work with the Low Line system.

It is the VIB 000250

So, there are two units that will work on the Low Line system.

VIB 000150

VIB 000250



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Hi Dave,

Your initial post has been added to the How-To's With a link back to here
Thanks Andrew.

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Ill dig it out and take a pic Simon ...dave will know if its of any use i believe ...

Hopefully you can see all the different plugs http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...1&d=1462291710
Thanks Nigel but I can't tell anything from that. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the High/Low Line looms because I've never seen either of them in the flesh. I've tried comparing your pic with Dave's loom pic in post 1 but I can't make head or tail of it.

Someone else might know if yours will fit a Low Line system, I'd be very surprised if the plugs are the same though.

Thanks again Dave.

So YIB000150 doesn't need the Trimble (no.3 in diagram) but it does need the GPS aerial (no.4) - is that right?

If the answer is yes, do you think I should I grab this while it's going? At least I'd have one more of the necessary bits.


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The part marked is a Trimble used in the early installs of both the Hi and Low line systems, used as a interface unit between the GPS aerial and the sat nav computer. Later models YIB000150 had the interface built into the sat nav computer.



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I have to add that I have found that there is another sat nav computer that will work with the Low Line system.

It is the VIB 000250

So, there are two units that will work on the Low Line system.

VIB 000150
VIB 000250

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Typo above - I think your Vs should be Ys.

According to Rimmers, there are four units that will work with the Low Line system (as listed in post 14).

These are the units on Rimmers Low Line page:
  • Low Line: YIB100020, YIB000250, YIB000150, YIB105210

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Typo above - I think your Vs should be Ys.

According to Rimmers, there are four units that will work with the Low Line system (as listed in post 14).

These are the units on Rimmers Low Line page:
  • Low Line: YIB100020, YIB000250, YIB000150, YIB105210
Error in my numbers

There are three units that will work with the Low Line system (not four). They are:
  • Low Line: YIB100020, YIB000250, YIB000150

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