Dual Mass flywheel - replace or not? - Page 3

patrolman pete · 16th February 2011, 17:12

Well i've handed over my credit card to the sum of £681.19! for my parts including a dual mass flywheel and 2 litres of MTF 94 gearbox oil. If i don't use the flywheel they will accept it back for a refund and have printed the fact on the receipt. I've opened the flywheel box to check what the fuss is all about and the centre of the flywheel has quite a lot of free play as standard! So i'm keen to compare it with the old one.

steve 135+ · 16th February 2011, 17:34

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Originally Posted by patrolman pete

Well i've handed over my credit card to the sum of £681.19! for my parts including a dual mass flywheel and 2 litres of MTF 94 gearbox oil. If i don't use the flywheel they will accept it back for a refund and have printed the fact on the receipt. I've opened the flywheel box to check what the fuss is all about and the centre of the flywheel has quite a lot of free play as standard! So i'm keen to compare it with the old one.

Hi If you check your new DMF there will be no more movement than 25mm, checking your old one, as i said max of 30mm movement anything above, replace it, don't forget to check the face for damage, Steve

patrolman pete · 16th February 2011, 18:13

Thanks for the advice Steve. The car is booked in for the clutch change next Wednesday in a local garage that my mate works for. He was able to get a staff discount even though it is a Ford main dealer it still is cheaper than i was quoted by the local x-part dealer for just the labour and my mate has done one of these before ( he said they are a swine to do!)

patrolman pete · 24th February 2011, 16:56

It's done! On my way to the garage i gave her a bit of throttle to see if it was any worse and there was no slipping! But they don't slip for nothing so in she went and my mate lent me his jag x-type for the day (cads car!) and i waited for the verdict. The slave cylinder fell apart when the box was removed . The clutch pressure plate had a bit of blueing but the friction plate was close but not on the rivets. So it has been assumed the the dual mass flywheel was slipping? plus it had about 25mm of play compared to 10mm on the new one so it was changed(it weighs about the same as an engine so no wonder the engines are smooth!) I thought the pedal was spot on before but what a difference it has made now! It's like the clutch on a japanese car it is so light! So yes it was expensive and it needed doing but made a great car even better to drive so i'm happy.

Andy , i didn't want to risk a drive to Doncaster but thanks for your offer.

ronbax · 13th May 2011, 18:16

hi pete,
some info please; where did you measure the wear on the flywheel?? i.e. at the periphery??

regards

patrolman pete · 13th May 2011, 20:22

My mate did the job and if i remember he rotated the centre of the flywheel side to side comparing it with the new one and decided it wasn't worth the risk not to fit it so that the gearbox did not have to come out again. In the end it did have to come out again as the gearbox input shaft seal failed so i would advise changing this as it only costs about £16 inc the 'o' ring and could save some heartache. The clutch is still light and smooth and still being paid off!

RPWC · 13th May 2011, 20:33

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Originally Posted by patrolman pete

Well i've handed over my credit card to the sum of £681.19! for my parts including a dual mass flywheel and 2 litres of MTF 94 gearbox oil. If i don't use the flywheel they will accept it back for a refund and have printed the fact on the receipt. I've opened the flywheel box to check what the fuss is all about and the centre of the flywheel has quite a lot of free play as standard! So i'm keen to compare it with the old one.

That's not a bad price,I just paid £873, to have the same job done,Master,cnc,clutch kit,dmf,and fluid,+oil

13th May 2011, 18:16	#25
ronbax Regular poster Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Halifax Posts: 74 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	flywheel wear hi pete, some info please; where did you measure the wear on the flywheel?? i.e. at the periphery?? regards

16th February 2011, 17:12	#21
patrolman pete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 club se tourer CDT and a Connoisseur SE Diesel Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houghton - le - Spring Posts: 1,436 Thanks: 618 Thanked 333 Times in 197 Posts	Well i've handed over my credit card to the sum of £681.19! for my parts including a dual mass flywheel and 2 litres of MTF 94 gearbox oil. If i don't use the flywheel they will accept it back for a refund and have printed the fact on the receipt. I've opened the flywheel box to check what the fuss is all about and the centre of the flywheel has quite a lot of free play as standard! So i'm keen to compare it with the old one.

16th February 2011, 18:13	#23
patrolman pete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 club se tourer CDT and a Connoisseur SE Diesel Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houghton - le - Spring Posts: 1,436 Thanks: 618 Thanked 333 Times in 197 Posts	Thanks for the advice Steve. The car is booked in for the clutch change next Wednesday in a local garage that my mate works for. He was able to get a staff discount even though it is a Ford main dealer it still is cheaper than i was quoted by the local x-part dealer for just the labour and my mate has done one of these before ( he said they are a swine to do!)

24th February 2011, 16:56	#24
patrolman pete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 club se tourer CDT and a Connoisseur SE Diesel Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houghton - le - Spring Posts: 1,436 Thanks: 618 Thanked 333 Times in 197 Posts	It's done! On my way to the garage i gave her a bit of throttle to see if it was any worse and there was no slipping! But they don't slip for nothing so in she went and my mate lent me his jag x-type for the day (cads car!) and i waited for the verdict. The slave cylinder fell apart when the box was removed . The clutch pressure plate had a bit of blueing but the friction plate was close but not on the rivets. So it has been assumed the the dual mass flywheel was slipping? plus it had about 25mm of play compared to 10mm on the new one so it was changed(it weighs about the same as an engine so no wonder the engines are smooth!) I thought the pedal was spot on before but what a difference it has made now! It's like the clutch on a japanese car it is so light! So yes it was expensive and it needed doing but made a great car even better to drive so i'm happy. Andy , i didn't want to risk a drive to Doncaster but thanks for your offer.

13th May 2011, 20:22	#26
patrolman pete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 club se tourer CDT and a Connoisseur SE Diesel Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houghton - le - Spring Posts: 1,436 Thanks: 618 Thanked 333 Times in 197 Posts	My mate did the job and if i remember he rotated the centre of the flywheel side to side comparing it with the new one and decided it wasn't worth the risk not to fit it so that the gearbox did not have to come out again. In the end it did have to come out again as the gearbox input shaft seal failed so i would advise changing this as it only costs about £16 inc the 'o' ring and could save some heartache. The clutch is still light and smooth and still being paid off!