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Old 31st March 2020, 13:20   #21
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According to my local rag, the Gazetteonline, police issued a ticket to someone who claimed they had never heard of Coronavirus, and wondered why there were so few people about. Now that is taking the Mickey, I hope his £60 fine helps him remember from now on .

Unfortunately that Gazette report does not contain the official reason for the fine and so might lead to confusion.

Maybe the defendant was genuinely ignorant of events over the last few weeks, it is very possible they were. In fact there must be many others.

Even the police are apparently either ignorant or unaware of the guidelines or 'rules'. In Richmond Park, London, an officer was filmed wildly waving his arms in the air and bellowing at a cyclist telling him only NHS staff were allowed to cycle there! The officer fined him. I wonder how far that will get and at what cost. Will the police officer bear any of that cost?

Others have been fined for buying what the police called 'non-essential items' from a supermarket. None of these above offences are offences. It all contributes to a hopeless lack of coordination of resources, widespread mistrust of official advice and a refusal to comply with any instruction.

Also, relying on an extreme print report from a hopelessly biased source such as the Guardian is, in itself, not worthy of any credibility. The vagaries of internal European departments' discussions have more leaks than a one-handed potmender's colander.
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Old 31st March 2020, 13:56   #22
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Also, relying on an extreme print report from a hopelessly biased source such as the Guardian is, in itself, not worthy of any credibility.

Oh no it ain't...

The Guardian has a magificent record of revealing and investigating wrong-doing, from the Snowden papers to phone hackers, exposing the Windrush scandal to the Panama papers. Sorry if it doesn't run with tittle tattle or celebrity gossip - and that it criticses HMG.
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Old 31st March 2020, 15:38   #23
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Oh no it ain't...

The Guardian has a magificent record of revealing and investigating wrong-doing, from the Snowden papers to phone hackers, exposing the Windrush scandal to the Panama papers. Sorry if it doesn't run with tittle tattle or celebrity gossip - and that it criticses HMG.
I think I may have given an entirely biased impression! There's nothing wrong with bias, every print source is 'biased' in it's own way. If I made a reference to articles from the Mail, Sun, Telegraph or Express they would all give different slants on the same subject and to an extent they would all be right!

In other areas, I too am biased. I am left handed, it makes my handwriting illegible which is fine by me - I can read it. If anyone has difficulty in reading it, then they don't have to! (One reason to thank the heavens for the keyboard!) In the case to which I was referring the subject was a naked attack with no measure of moderation and in that respect it was typical of virtually every other article that appears in that paper - that's all.

I was making the point that on particular subjects (of varying colours) each would to an extent be right! They give a limited picture which carefully omits certain aspects which might denigrate their particular political persuasion so should be taken, at least in isolation, with a pinch of salt.

That doesn't in any way detract from their crusading efforts in other areas of public discussion! To imply others' success is based on tittle-tattle and gossip - a bit harsh to imply that's all there is. It's called every day life and who, apart from me, is not on FB or Tw which consist to a large degree of trolls?
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Old 1st April 2020, 14:00   #24
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I read somewhere there are some 30 million addresses in the UK. At 76p, or 2nd class at 65p, that seems cheap! And that's without the envelope.
I am sure that the government gets a discounted postal rate.

I know those sending out all the junk mail don’t pay anywhere near 65p per letter.
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Has anyone actually received their letter yet ?
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Not yet but looking forward to something to read. Done all my newspapers and magazines now!
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Not yet but looking forward to something to read. Done all my newspapers and magazines now!
Wow, you got through that toilet paper quick!
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Wow, you got through that toilet paper quick!
well reading ........ IZAL - now wash your hands! on every page gets a bit Monotonous !!!
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That's always puzzled me. The message on the sheet before use?
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