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Old 10th July 2019, 19:25   #11
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I thought your boundary is left hand side down and right hand across.
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That is the usual “rule of thumb” but things can change over time. For a real example - where the original boundary was a simple concrete posts and wire fence. This was on the deeds as per the “rule of thumb” above as the responsibility of the house on the Left.

But the house on the right put up a six foot wooden fence on their side of the concrete and wire original boundary fence.

Later the owner on the house on the left removed the ageing concrete and wire boundary fence.

And then sold the property.

The new owner of the house on the left believed the remaining fence that was not only NOT on his land but about six inches set back onto his neighbours land and was bought, paid for and constructed by his neighbour - actually belonged to him - not his neighbour.

And unfortunately the line on the map was in thick ink and equated to about 18 inches “on the ground”. So little help there.

It was sorted by old photographs showing the original fence and the construction of the secondary wooden one well within one side of the border.

This could have been world war three.

It wasn’t because both sides were open minded and honest and actually talked to each other!
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Old 11th July 2019, 12:49   #12
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No she doesn't expect them to "chip in" for the part higher bit, it's the fact that old 4ft bit was getting taken away and new higher 6ft one put in.

It's one of the posts that was dividing their gardens, they have a plant growing against it and he said to the fence guys to leave it, he should have came to her. She is well angry about it.

She's angry that none of them offered to pay for the first one and doesn't see how they think they have the right to say what part of the fence or posts get taken away.
I'm struggling to see what the problem is. If the post is an original boundary post (often concrete) it is best to leave them in place, then there is no arguement on where the boundary should be as the wooden fences come and go. Presumably now there is a fence panel shielding this post from your mother's side now, so it's out of sight for her. However, if the post is your side of the panel, then your mother's fence is her neighbours side of the boundary and you had better hope they don't take issue with it!
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Old 11th July 2019, 17:56   #13
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Boundary defined on the Deeds or Land registry docs. It can vary and it also it is not defined by which way the boards are fixed, "your" side or "theirs".
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Land Registry web site is very clear that exact position of Boundaries are unlikely to be recorded. Extract below
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If you live in England or Wales, there’s usually no record of:
  • the exact boundary between two properties
  • who owns the hedge, wall, tree or fence between 2 properties
https://www.gov.uk/your-property-boundaries
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Land Registry web site is very clear that exact position of Boundaries are unlikely to be recorded. Extract below
Overview
If you live in England or Wales, there’s usually no record of:
  • the exact boundary between two properties
  • who owns the hedge, wall, tree or fence between 2 properties
https://www.gov.uk/your-property-boundaries
And where there is a “line on a map” it is rarely a nice needle sharp line that clearly defines anything!

I have seen felt tip used where the width of the line on the map equates to a couple of feet or third of a metre on the ground.

Totally useless in a boundary dispute.
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And where there is a “line on a map” it is rarely a nice needle sharp line that clearly defines anything!

I have seen felt tip used where the width of the line on the map equates to a couple of feet or third of a metre on the ground.

Totally useless in a boundary dispute.
indeed, moving house shortly into my wife's Mum's house which she left her and just obtained all the deeds and land registry stuff. Boundary line is as clear as mud!
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My parents house didn't go onto the Land Registery until they had passed away, some 40 years after they moved there. The only lines were next doors, which had recently been sold,that went thought half the back of the house. Fortunately the neighbours were OK about rectifying it to both parties satisfaction.
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