Water getting into footwell

rov9575 · 25th January 2017, 17:51

I am getting water in the drivers side footwell, the area of wetness is towards the centre of the car near the, what used to be called, transmission tunnel.
I have check all the plenum, sunroof drains, put a hose over the car and into the plenum with carpet up and no signs of leakage. Could it be entering the car from the air con drain tube as this would seem to be the only source of water in the area I mentioned.
Thanks
AW
PS have checked the heater matrix, all ok.

planenut · 25th January 2017, 19:50

I am sure that others will suggest similar when I say to check the join under the A pillar where the sunroof drain is normally poorly connected to the pipe which then extends into the wheel arch area. Mine were totally clogged with dirt. As suggested by others, the joint is very poor and some have fixed that with the installing of hose connectors. I didn't, refixed the original with PTFE tape, and never had a problem again.

Worth looking, good luck.

Mike24 · 25th January 2017, 21:10

I thought I had cleared my sunroof drains a while ago, but found that when the car was parked on a road with a pronounced camber I was getting water into the car. The drains had become blocked again fairly quickly due to an accumulation of dirt that had not been allowed to escape through the "ducks bill" at the end of the drain tube. I cleared the drains again with net curtain wire and made sure that the "ducks bill" end was cut off behind the wheel arch liner; since then I haven't had any problems. It it definitely isn't sunroof or plenum then I guess you would have to be looking at the windscreen seal.

zedhed · 25th January 2017, 23:00

check your windscreen ain't loose like mine was

rov9575 · 25th January 2017, 23:09

Thanks for the comments, re the sunroof drain, I know where this runs through the cabin just to the right of the pedals on the rising toe board. However the foam underlay is dry in this area. I have pored water through it and it emerges from under the car from the aforementioned duck bills.
The ingress appears to be coming from the middle of the car although the matrix is dry, also it leaves no antifreeze staining as a tell tale which leads me to ask could it be coming from the air con drain?
I will check again the points mentioned earlier, when things warm up a bit, as it is going to take some drying out!

Dragrad · 26th January 2017, 00:29

Thread moved to a more appropriate forum. Re-direct left in old. This may be the better forum as threads get ‘lost’ very quickly in the General Forum.

Animesis · 28th January 2017, 16:44

With these front leaks theres something that happened to mine and a few others that rarely gets mentioned. The scuttle clip cups can fracture, -obvious sign is a loose scuttle clip- and these cups are pushed through a hole in the bulkhead meaning a fractured cup allows water to wick down into the car as a surprising rate
A very silly bit of design.. drilling holes into the bulkhead for the scuttle clip cups..

25th January 2017, 17:51	#1
rov9575 Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: York Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Water getting into footwell I am getting water in the drivers side footwell, the area of wetness is towards the centre of the car near the, what used to be called, transmission tunnel. I have check all the plenum, sunroof drains, put a hose over the car and into the plenum with carpet up and no signs of leakage. Could it be entering the car from the air con drain tube as this would seem to be the only source of water in the area I mentioned. Thanks AW PS have checked the heater matrix, all ok.

25th January 2017, 23:09	#5
rov9575 Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: York Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the comments, re the sunroof drain, I know where this runs through the cabin just to the right of the pedals on the rising toe board. However the foam underlay is dry in this area. I have pored water through it and it emerges from under the car from the aforementioned duck bills. The ingress appears to be coming from the middle of the car although the matrix is dry, also it leaves no antifreeze staining as a tell tale which leads me to ask could it be coming from the air con drain? I will check again the points mentioned earlier, when things warm up a bit, as it is going to take some drying out! Last edited by rov9575; 25th January 2017 at 23:13..

26th January 2017, 00:29	#6
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28th January 2017, 16:44	#7
Animesis Loves to post Rover 75 saloon 2.0l Diesel Connoisseur Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Wokingham Posts: 259 Thanks: 136 Thanked 21 Times in 15 Posts	With these front leaks theres something that happened to mine and a few others that rarely gets mentioned. The scuttle clip cups can fracture, -obvious sign is a loose scuttle clip- and these cups are pushed through a hole in the bulkhead meaning a fractured cup allows water to wick down into the car as a surprising rate A very silly bit of design.. drilling holes into the bulkhead for the scuttle clip cups.. __________________ Gearbox change, clutch, subframe refurbish, handbrake mod, drumbrake repair, rear coils, plate PCB repair, sunroof drains refitted, trim leak fix, cruise control fix, cleared EGR/inlet, new strut bearings, USB sockets in rear ashtray, new front brake pipes/hoses, repaired undertray, new o/s rear upper arm, refurbished rear suspension&subframe, fixed back light leak, new exhaust, fitted HID xenons, FBH fix, new thermostat, armrest LEDs, wood dash, new hydromount, natnav, tyres, numberplates

25th January 2017, 19:50	#2
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	I am sure that others will suggest similar when I say to check the join under the A pillar where the sunroof drain is normally poorly connected to the pipe which then extends into the wheel arch area. Mine were totally clogged with dirt. As suggested by others, the joint is very poor and some have fixed that with the installing of hose connectors. I didn't, refixed the original with PTFE tape, and never had a problem again. Worth looking, good luck.

25th January 2017, 21:10	#3
Mike24 Loves to post Rover 75 CDTI Auto Saloon Connoisseur SE Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Coventry Posts: 358 Thanks: 166 Thanked 67 Times in 56 Posts	I thought I had cleared my sunroof drains a while ago, but found that when the car was parked on a road with a pronounced camber I was getting water into the car. The drains had become blocked again fairly quickly due to an accumulation of dirt that had not been allowed to escape through the "ducks bill" at the end of the drain tube. I cleared the drains again with net curtain wire and made sure that the "ducks bill" end was cut off behind the wheel arch liner; since then I haven't had any problems. It it definitely isn't sunroof or plenum then I guess you would have to be looking at the windscreen seal.

25th January 2017, 23:00	#4
zedhed Posted a thing or two zt saloon turbo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Tipton Posts: 1,461 Thanks: 1 Thanked 167 Times in 132 Posts	check your windscreen ain't loose like mine was