Issue with Pagid rear brake pads

Zircon · 9th July 2022, 12:33

Hi everyone,

Just to give you a heads up on a problem I encountered last week, when I took a set of Pagid rear brake pads and discs purchased from Car Parts 4 Less to be fitted by Terry Shaw of TS Autos.

As Terry helpfully explains, "I fitted the new discs then went to fit the new pads and the caliper wouldn't fit back on because the friction material was too thick for it to be reassembled, my options were take the anti rattle shims off the pads or reduce the material by sanding them down, no I thought both those options were a bodge, so back on with the old discs and I found a set of nearly new pads in order to pass the mot, we then boxed the parts back up and got a refund."

There was no problem getting the refund via Eurocarparts, although the lady there insisted I must have ordered the wrong pads ... I did not!

All the best,

Nicholas/Zircon

KWIL · 9th July 2022, 14:52

Fortunately I have never had any problems with Pagid Discs and pads/shoes on my 75. Maybe not in the correct box? but both items?

Mike Trident · 9th July 2022, 16:12

I fitted pagid discs and pads to our Citroen C1, fitted and worked perfectly.

However, recently ordered some filters etc when I was servicing the Rover, the oil filter was nothing like the one I removed. The the fuel filter was way too small for the clamp to hold it. Expensive ones at that.

xsport · 9th July 2022, 21:15

used pagid for years and years. i now only buy their discs and couple them with brembo or mintex. i had a lot of issues with the spring retainers at the piston side ,not riveted central to the pads on the pagids. the discs seem to last longer without developing small cracks on softer pads. i think the pagid pads/discs seem too hard a combination and glaze alot. others seem happy with them , but this is just my experience of them , and may well differ for other members ....

xsport · 9th July 2022, 21:23

i did compare the pads shape and sizes on the "dog ears " of the pagids to original old rover pads , which i bought from another member on here. there was quite a difference on shape and size. marginal yes, but still differed. i dont know if this contributed to the occasional glazing which i mentioned , but did reoccur even after full calliper strip/clean / new pistons and seals....

Zircon · 9th July 2022, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWIL

Fortunately I have never had any problems with Pagid Discs and pads/shoes on my 75. Maybe not in the correct box? but both items?

The discs didn't need replacing in the end, so I think it was probably only the pads that were wrong/wrongly packaged.

All's well that ends well, but I thought my experience might just prove of interest.

Mike Noc · 9th July 2022, 22:00

Back in the day I had a similar thing happen with an aftermarket clutch disc. Fitted it and I couldn't free the clutch off completely with the pedal fully down. Bled the hydraulic system but it was still dragging so whipped the disc back out (luckily an Austin Maxi so an easy job) and the disc was 1mm or so too thick.

Welded a small extension on to the slave cylinder piston rod to compensate thinking I would cut it off once the disc had worn down a bit but it worked perfectly from then on.

Number 6 · 9th July 2022, 22:17

what do members recommend for replacement front pads The last pads I fitted did not seem to have as good a "bite" when applying them. so thinking of replacing them But what with??

Arctic · 10th July 2022, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 6

what do members recommend for replacement front pads The last pads I fitted did not seem to have as good a "bite" when applying them. so thinking of replacing them But what with??

John you could do worse than these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324063446749

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225063303...IaAqo_EALw_wcB

Robson Rover Repair · 10th July 2022, 10:05

Pagid are Euro car parts budget range, and I do mean budget. They are a sub par standard at the best of times. I wouldn't fit anything by them to my cars.

They are the car dealers favourite for a reason.

If your on a budget and want a quality value for money pad just fit mintex. But make sure its a genuine mintex dealer, as they are a popular fake part in the likes of amazon etc.

9th July 2022, 12:33	#1
Zircon Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Club SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 416 Thanks: 371 Thanked 251 Times in 92 Posts	Issue with Pagid rear brake pads Hi everyone, Just to give you a heads up on a problem I encountered last week, when I took a set of Pagid rear brake pads and discs purchased from Car Parts 4 Less to be fitted by Terry Shaw of TS Autos. As Terry helpfully explains, "I fitted the new discs then went to fit the new pads and the caliper wouldn't fit back on because the friction material was too thick for it to be reassembled, my options were take the anti rattle shims off the pads or reduce the material by sanding them down, no I thought both those options were a bodge, so back on with the old discs and I found a set of nearly new pads in order to pass the mot, we then boxed the parts back up and got a refund." There was no problem getting the refund via Eurocarparts, although the lady there insisted I must have ordered the wrong pads ... I did not! All the best, Nicholas/Zircon Last edited by Zircon; 9th July 2022 at 12:45.. Reason: Typo

9th July 2022, 16:12	#3
Mike Trident Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Saloon & Citroen C1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Oakenshaw, Near Bradford Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 385 Thanked 552 Times in 328 Posts	I fitted pagid discs and pads to our Citroen C1, fitted and worked perfectly. However, recently ordered some filters etc when I was servicing the Rover, the oil filter was nothing like the one I removed. The the fuel filter was way too small for the clamp to hold it. Expensive ones at that. __________________ Rover 75 2.0 CDTi (131Ps) Conn SE Saloon. (Manual) 160 Remap, cruise control, electric window blind, temp gauge, Real walnut / ZT interior, FBH with GSM control. BORN Tuesday, 5th October 2004 @ 12:35:52 This vehicle was the 104,679th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 3,318th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 4,744 This vehicle was the 12,440th 75 in Starlight Silver (code: MBB) to be made out of 14,280 Starlight Silver 75s

9th July 2022, 22:17	#8
Number 6 This is my second home Rover 75 tourer Club CD/Limo Tints Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Meneac Posts: 6,759 Thanks: 5,007 Thanked 1,609 Times in 869 Posts	Brake pads what do members recommend for replacement front pads The last pads I fitted did not seem to have as good a "bite" when applying them. so thinking of replacing them But what with?? __________________ ] "I started out with nothing, and Ive still got most of it left!"

10th July 2022, 10:05	#10
Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,101 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	Pagid are Euro car parts budget range, and I do mean budget. They are a sub par standard at the best of times. I wouldn't fit anything by them to my cars. They are the car dealers favourite for a reason. If your on a budget and want a quality value for money pad just fit mintex. But make sure its a genuine mintex dealer, as they are a popular fake part in the likes of amazon etc. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024

9th July 2022, 14:52	#2
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,952 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Fortunately I have never had any problems with Pagid Discs and pads/shoes on my 75. Maybe not in the correct box? but both items?

9th July 2022, 21:15	#4
xsport Posted a thing or two rover 75 club se Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 358 Thanked 419 Times in 310 Posts	used pagid for years and years. i now only buy their discs and couple them with brembo or mintex. i had a lot of issues with the spring retainers at the piston side ,not riveted central to the pads on the pagids. the discs seem to last longer without developing small cracks on softer pads. i think the pagid pads/discs seem too hard a combination and glaze alot. others seem happy with them , but this is just my experience of them , and may well differ for other members ....

9th July 2022, 21:23	#5
xsport Posted a thing or two rover 75 club se Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 358 Thanked 419 Times in 310 Posts	i did compare the pads shape and sizes on the "dog ears " of the pagids to original old rover pads , which i bought from another member on here. there was quite a difference on shape and size. marginal yes, but still differed. i dont know if this contributed to the occasional glazing which i mentioned , but did reoccur even after full calliper strip/clean / new pistons and seals....

9th July 2022, 22:00	#7
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,547 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Back in the day I had a similar thing happen with an aftermarket clutch disc. Fitted it and I couldn't free the clutch off completely with the pedal fully down. Bled the hydraulic system but it was still dragging so whipped the disc back out (luckily an Austin Maxi so an easy job) and the disc was 1mm or so too thick. Welded a small extension on to the slave cylinder piston rod to compensate thinking I would cut it off once the disc had worn down a bit but it worked perfectly from then on.