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Old 12th August 2021, 21:20   #1
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Taliban advancing and there is no one to, to, well to what?

Have the Afgan's been thrown to the wolves?


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Old 12th August 2021, 23:40   #2
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I don't think so, but then again I never felt that we should have given the yanks anything other than logistic support in the battle with their troubles. And if that is all we did, it would be a damned sight more than they ever did for us with the decades of slaughter of innocent people on our streets which we had to suffer.
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Taliban advancing and there is no one to, to, well to what?

Have the Afgan's been thrown to the wolves?


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No! They never fully supported NATO forces. Billions of dollars have been injected into the country for rebuilding and good blood shed. Schools have been opened to females. All that is, apparently, not worth fighting for and is certainly not as powerful as Islamic religion.

The analogy is Vietnam!

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In hundreds of years of revolutions and continuing deep unrest in the region the Taliban have succeeded in maintaining their grip on a medieval State. In my admittedly unqualified view, and despite the horror of the cost in not only our own military forces but others as well, UK should not have entered into such a vain invasion.
I wonder just what US have on UK that persuaded our Gov to take part in such an absolutely stupid war. It must be something rather large. Could it possibly have been the sycophantic relationship between national leaders of the time?
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Old 16th August 2021, 13:39   #5
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In hundreds of years of revolutions and continuing deep unrest in the region the Taliban have succeeded in maintaining their grip on a medieval State.
The Taliban is the creature of Pakistan and no terrorist organisation has been defeated if they have access to sanctuary (i.e. Pakistan).

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Altruistically, the concept of gaining some influence internationally by making friends is a worthwhile pursuit. There is no doubt that it is originally an accepted and mutually beneficial practice born of genuine goodwill. Unfortunately when the impostor of religious or tribal fanaticism rears its ugly head, all else crumbles.
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The FOD alerts must have been terrifying for those pilots! The extractions should have been weeks ago. We all knew that the "trainees" would fold very quickly. So sad.
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All those powerful people who "knew" talked of education, womens rights and other nice fuzzy things. They had the gall to think that they should remake a country according to their liking. Some, the Americans thought they would get rich, none of these people gave a thought to the likely cost in lives etc. Some of us voted for these same people and now they are rich and famous and and they "know" they were right. The Afgans only wanted to be left to continue to kill each other as they have done since forever, they like killing each other and anyone else who is available,they are good at it. They will hope to draw us back so they can kill more of us. Chris S.
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Rory Stewart is a good commentator on this country with his experience of the region. He’s worth listening to IMO.
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Old 14th August 2021, 07:37   #10
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Whether you believe we should have or not, we’ve given them 20 years, at some cost, to help them build a modern government, expel corruption and to build their own security services to manage internal tensions. For that we were not thanked. Many brave souls lost their lives and many have been injured. Better out than in.
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