Is it possible

Ched · 23rd September 2020, 16:23

To tell by plugging an ecu into a T4 whether it is for a pencil coil or bremi coil ign system, or even better from the serial number/ sticker on the casing?
This is relating to a 2003 my v6 190 thanks.

trikey · 23rd September 2020, 18:49

The ZCS coding will tell you what type of coils it should have Dave.

bl52krz · 23rd September 2020, 21:06

What coils has yours got on then Dave. Just changed the pencil coils on my 2.5 kv6 that’s 2003. Or are you after a different Ecu than the one fitted?.

Ched · 23rd September 2020, 22:40

Thanks Andy

Hi Dave,

The replacement engine has bremi coils fitted to it, and its a 2003 lump, the engine in the car is a zs180 lump, its fitted with the beru coils,.
There has been a constant electrical problem with the running of it and I am wondering if the ecu is supposed to be used for the bremi coils, although I know the wiring is in a right state as well which doesn't help.
I don't want to get a replacement loom for it and swap the manifolds and ign system over if it doesn't need doing.

It appears I have a knack of buying cars that bodge artist's or monkeys have been interfering with.

Phil-T4 · 24th September 2020, 06:50

The 2 types of coils have different charge time rates therefore the ecu firmware must match the type of coil fitted, the ZCS code for pencil coils is used to make sure the ecu has the correct firmware downloaded to it.

Ched · 24th September 2020, 11:40

Thanks for that Phil, I'll get the ecu over to chris with a t4 at some stage then for a check.

bl52krz · 24th September 2020, 20:47

Seems like its all bodgy bodgy with this car Dave. I reckon you might be right in assuming that the ZS 180 engine was installed with the old ecu from the previous engine, whatever that was? There sure is some good? Bodgers about. You have got more patience than me that’s for sure.

Ched · 24th September 2020, 21:17

I'm quietly confident that the bodgery doesn't extend beyond the engine bay Dave, the rest of the car certainly doesn't look like anyone has touched any part of it since it left the factory.
The car is now in a position to begin the engine transplant, the belt change for the replacement engine has been organised, it's just down to me, my rest days and the looming winter weather now.

trikey · 24th September 2020, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Ched

I'm quietly confident that the bodgery doesn't extend beyond the engine bay Dave, the rest of the car certainly doesn't look like anyone has touched any part of it since it left the factory.
The car is now in a position to begin the engine transplant, the belt change for the replacement engine has been organised, it's just down to me, my rest days and the looming winter weather now.

Bodgery can be sorted.. All you have to do is reverse what some fooker has done

23rd September 2020, 16:23	#1
Ched I really should get out more....... MG ZT V8, MGZT 135 derv ,MG TF 135 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Romsey Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 553 Thanked 573 Times in 385 Posts	Is it possible To tell by plugging an ecu into a T4 whether it is for a pencil coil or bremi coil ign system, or even better from the serial number/ sticker on the casing? This is relating to a 2003 my v6 190 thanks.

23rd September 2020, 18:49	#2
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,765 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	The ZCS coding will tell you what type of coils it should have Dave. __________________ Lest we forget..

23rd September 2020, 21:06	#3
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	What coils has yours got on then Dave. Just changed the pencil coils on my 2.5 kv6 that’s 2003. Or are you after a different Ecu than the one fitted?. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.

24th September 2020, 20:47	#7
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	Seems like its all bodgy bodgy with this car Dave. I reckon you might be right in assuming that the ZS 180 engine was installed with the old ecu from the previous engine, whatever that was? There sure is some good? Bodgers about. You have got more patience than me that’s for sure. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.

23rd September 2020, 22:40	#4
Ched I really should get out more....... MG ZT V8, MGZT 135 derv ,MG TF 135 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Romsey Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 553 Thanked 573 Times in 385 Posts	Thanks Andy Hi Dave, The replacement engine has bremi coils fitted to it, and its a 2003 lump, the engine in the car is a zs180 lump, its fitted with the beru coils,. There has been a constant electrical problem with the running of it and I am wondering if the ecu is supposed to be used for the bremi coils, although I know the wiring is in a right state as well which doesn't help. I don't want to get a replacement loom for it and swap the manifolds and ign system over if it doesn't need doing. It appears I have a knack of buying cars that bodge artist's or monkeys have been interfering with.

24th September 2020, 06:50	#5
Phil-T4 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T, Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Olney Posts: 2,969 Thanks: 245 Thanked 1,088 Times in 657 Posts	The 2 types of coils have different charge time rates therefore the ecu firmware must match the type of coil fitted, the ZCS code for pencil coils is used to make sure the ecu has the correct firmware downloaded to it.

24th September 2020, 11:40	#6
Ched I really should get out more....... MG ZT V8, MGZT 135 derv ,MG TF 135 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Romsey Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 553 Thanked 573 Times in 385 Posts	Thanks for that Phil, I'll get the ecu over to chris with a t4 at some stage then for a check.

24th September 2020, 21:17	#8
Ched I really should get out more....... MG ZT V8, MGZT 135 derv ,MG TF 135 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Romsey Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 553 Thanked 573 Times in 385 Posts	I'm quietly confident that the bodgery doesn't extend beyond the engine bay Dave, the rest of the car certainly doesn't look like anyone has touched any part of it since it left the factory. The car is now in a position to begin the engine transplant, the belt change for the replacement engine has been organised, it's just down to me, my rest days and the looming winter weather now.