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Old 14th September 2020, 06:31   #21
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It seems we have concluded that the o/s bush is well out of position, either by being badly fitted (likely by hammering the outer onto the arm) or it has detached after correct fitting and worked it's way back along the arm.... Whichever case it needs replacing, and the n/s appears to be going the same way.

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I disagree, they have both been forced on due to too great an interference fit between the shaft and bush - fitted correctly they don't move but naturally stay put as there no forces on them. The difference between the two is that one has separated the inner bush from the housing and the other hasn't.
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Old 14th September 2020, 06:41   #22
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I would tend to agree with Mike here, on both of the replacement arms I fitted to my car there was quite a lot of rough casting flash to be filed off, and carefully reshaped in order that the bush could be fitted.


The arms were Starline (Eurocarparts rubbish) and the bushes Firstline (good quality)


These parts were all I could get at short notice , and I wasn't particularly impressed by the amount of work to get them "right" and I doubt the garage would have bothered............I suspect they fitted the bushes to the subframe, then forced, or attempted to force the arm into the bush with the inner part unsupported.
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Old 14th September 2020, 08:39   #23
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Well, whatever the truth of it the garage were fine when I visited them this morning, and are replacing the o/s bush under warranty on Wednesday. No dispute from them that it had failed.
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Old 14th September 2020, 08:50   #24
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actually sold as a pair , but 2 different makers ? and both Chinese !


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Most of the lower wishbone bushes out there are Chinese and are rubbish, even the so called MG Rover RBX101772 are made in Taiwan.
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But they seem to have the right amount of rubber in the inserts.
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Which the original bushes had.
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Look at this other make from Taiwan note the amount of rubber in the insert, these were advertised with a photo of the amount of rubber in photo 2 but these turned up, full refund was given and told to keep the bushes, what does that say, if you sell enough you can afford to lose some along the way.
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Unipart are great if you can find them now, myself and Marina Brian purchased a few sets of these a few years back
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actually sold as a pair , but 2 different makers ? and both Chinese !


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You don't have to be Sherlock Homes to work it out good extended warranty though, but what use is it if you have to pay for the job to be undertaken twice or even three times.
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Pictures of other side, which looks ok to me

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Both bushes are scrap the offside bush metalestac insert has failed compleetly. the NHearside bush has been forced on forcing out the bush materal from the metal carrier.

I note from your post that the garage refuse to fit customer supplied parts. in this case it is a good thing. the garage have supplied you with parts which they have damaged whilst fitting them to your car. Trading standards will happly take this one on as your photographs show that either the parts they supplied were not fit for purpose, or they "the Garage" damaged the parts during fitting, leaving the car in a condition that could lead to an accadent due to the failed bushes being fitted.


Usualy I am fighting these people to fit my parts, over the years I have had many a CEO appologising for a branch refusing to fit a customer supplied part.



In your case. the garage need to replace the defective/dammaged parts urgently as a mater of safety. currently the car would fail a vehicle inspection on damaged front wishbone rear mounting bushes depending on the tester it may even get a unsafe to leave premises until repaired.



I do hope this is a local garage and not a National Chain. the garage should be giving you a car to use while their poor workmanship on your car is repaired and the dammaged parts are replaced with NEW Correct parts. I would also be asking to see the currently fitted parts after they have replaced them. I would photograph these parts and request to know the supplier was.

without seeing the car up close it is hard to say if it has been a defective part fitted badly or just a part fitted badly causing dammage to the new part.



I am asuming it is a small local garage that have no quality contorl as the repair as photographed should never have left the work shop.
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no matter where you get these parts from ? unless you get a mileage related warranty, its worthless ..should be a minimum of 50k

even my last QH arm didn't quite manage 50k

A 2 years or even 3 yrs warranty is a waste of time ..


My Original NS arm is just going outside its 17 year 160k warranty .
and this OS arm is Number 4




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Old 16th September 2020, 05:29   #30
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Well, whatever the truth of it the garage were fine when I visited them this morning, and are replacing the o/s bush under warranty on Wednesday. No dispute from them that it had failed.
I would be asking the garage to replace both, as one has failed totaly and the other is fitted incorrectly. You have to asume that as the garage supplied both bushes at the same time, the bushes are of the same make and batch.
I would also ask the garage to replace the defective bushes with a set from a different supplyer and a different make.
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