Go Back   The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > Social Forums > Photography Corner
Register FAQ Image Gallery Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 2nd November 2020, 06:04   #11
Gate Keeper
This is my second home
 
4X4

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Nairobi
Posts: 20,006
Thanks: 8,286
Thanked 7,017 Times in 4,160 Posts
Default

Back in July Jeff in the critique thread, we discussed sky replacement using layering and this is what you said....

“It can indeed work very well, it's just not what I would call photography. It is however very much art in itself
Me is a tog though and it's not something I choose to do.
I'm of the get it right in camera. Use editing to bring out the best in the photo but not put in what wasn't there”
__________________
Jeff.

Do you still hold the view about not putting something in that isn’t there?
Gate Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd November 2020, 06:32   #12
coolcat
This is my second home
 
coolcat's Avatar
 
Audi Q3 TDI S-Line Quattro

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Clacton On Sea/On the boat somewhere
Posts: 51,038
Thanks: 9,890
Thanked 12,235 Times in 8,232 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gate Keeper View Post
Back in July Jeff in the critique thread, we discussed sky replacement using layering and this is what you said....

“It can indeed work very well, it's just not what I would call photography. It is however very much art in itself
Me is a tog though and it's not something I choose to do.
I'm of the get it right in camera. Use editing to bring out the best in the photo but not put in what wasn't there”
__________________
Jeff.

Do you still hold the view about not putting something in that isn’t there?
I know Phil,

Check out what I said in post #5
__________________
Jeff.
coolcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd November 2020, 22:50   #13
Phil
This is my second home
 
Phil's Avatar
 
Rover 75 CDT Connoisseur SE

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Wales
Posts: 12,227
Thanks: 469
Thanked 523 Times in 241 Posts
Default

I can't help but wonder, how often sky swapping actually takes place in professional photography.
I often look at images and think "how on earth did you get that lighting! Jeff's plane is a prime example!
__________________
Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd November 2020, 06:22   #14
Gate Keeper
This is my second home
 
4X4

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Nairobi
Posts: 20,006
Thanks: 8,286
Thanked 7,017 Times in 4,160 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I can't help but wonder, how often sky swapping actually takes place in professional photography.
I often look at images and think "how on earth did you get that lighting! Jeff's plane is a prime example!
Personally, I’d never admit to using these tools in a photo, that way no one would know if I had used a fake sky or not

It doesn’t stop there, the latest tools from Luminar AI, includes changing the colours of the iris in a person’s eyes, changing the body shape from fat to thin, not only changing the sky, but also adding in the water reflections in mirroring a changed sky over water, with sliding adjustments to the light/shadow to avoid detection by an expert photographer.

I decided not to buy Luminar AI.
Gate Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd November 2020, 10:15   #15
Teflon
This is my second home
 
Teflon's Avatar
 
Lagoon 2.0 V6 75 Conn SE Saloon

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chertsey
Posts: 5,198
Thanks: 2,825
Thanked 2,920 Times in 1,570 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gate Keeper View Post
Personally, I’d never admit to using these tools in a photo, that way no one would know if I had used a fake sky or not

It doesn’t stop there, the latest tools from Luminar AI, includes changing the colours of the iris in a person’s eyes, changing the body shape from fat to thin, not only changing the sky, but also adding in the water reflections in mirroring a changed sky over water, with sliding adjustments to the light/shadow to avoid detection by an expert photographer.

I decided not to buy Luminar AI.

I personally love all these editing tools, and find them great fun to use, as well as very satisfying. I believe they have a legitimate place in image production, provided they are used in an honest fashion.

I have to agree with Jeff though (and I suspect you as well Phil), that the results should not be considered "photography". Capturing an image correctly in the lens in that one moment in time takes a very special talent and trumps a digitally enhanced image every time in my book.

Cliff
__________________


No. 4 of 6
Teflon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th November 2020, 23:33   #16
solarsailor
Posted a thing or two
 
solarsailor's Avatar
 
75 Saloon 1.8T Club SE

Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1,225
Thanks: 87
Thanked 653 Times in 344 Posts
Default

I don't have CC but I do subscribe to a couple of photography channels on youtube, one of which does photoshop tutorials. Apparently one of the new features in CC 2021 can auto colorize black & white photos -
link to tutorial here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx2xxCcnZNk&t=64s

If anyone has a spare moment I'd love to see what it does with this photo, especially as I can remember the colours of our choir outfits!

__________________


This vehicle was born on Wednesday June 4th 2003 @ 08:24:38
This vehicle was the 73,905th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381
This vehicle was the 1,862nd 75 1.8 T Club SE to be made out of 3,980
This vehicle was the 6,856th 75 in Wedgewood Blue to be made out of 7,515 Wedgewood Blue 75s
solarsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2020, 13:23   #17
Teflon
This is my second home
 
Teflon's Avatar
 
Lagoon 2.0 V6 75 Conn SE Saloon

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chertsey
Posts: 5,198
Thanks: 2,825
Thanked 2,920 Times in 1,570 Posts
Default

Here you go, be interesting to hear how accurate it is. I've also had a quick stab at repairing the tear in the photo



Cliff
__________________


No. 4 of 6
Teflon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2020, 13:58   #18
solarsailor
Posted a thing or two
 
solarsailor's Avatar
 
75 Saloon 1.8T Club SE

Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1,225
Thanks: 87
Thanked 653 Times in 344 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
Here you go, be interesting to hear how accurate it is. I've also had a quick stab at repairing the tear in the photo

Cliff
Was this done by CC's auto colorize tool? A pretty good job apart from the fact that the cassocks we wore were light blue rather than red. Well done on repairing the tear - I can't see the join!
__________________


This vehicle was born on Wednesday June 4th 2003 @ 08:24:38
This vehicle was the 73,905th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381
This vehicle was the 1,862nd 75 1.8 T Club SE to be made out of 3,980
This vehicle was the 6,856th 75 in Wedgewood Blue to be made out of 7,515 Wedgewood Blue 75s
solarsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2020, 15:09   #19
Teflon
This is my second home
 
Teflon's Avatar
 
Lagoon 2.0 V6 75 Conn SE Saloon

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chertsey
Posts: 5,198
Thanks: 2,825
Thanked 2,920 Times in 1,570 Posts
Default

Yup, all done with a couple of clicks in Adobe really very simple. Shame it got the colour wrong, but I guess it's better than nothing.

I'm a little colour blind, so if I did it myself I suspect it would be considerably worse

By the way, which one is you in the photo?

Cliff
__________________


No. 4 of 6
Teflon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2020, 16:51   #20
solarsailor
Posted a thing or two
 
solarsailor's Avatar
 
75 Saloon 1.8T Club SE

Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1,225
Thanks: 87
Thanked 653 Times in 344 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
Yup, all done with a couple of clicks in Adobe really very simple. Shame it got the colour wrong, but I guess it's better than nothing.

I'm a little colour blind, so if I did it myself I suspect it would be considerably worse

By the way, which one is you in the photo?

Cliff

What makes you think I'm in the photo? Second row, fifth from the right (including the adult on the end).
__________________


This vehicle was born on Wednesday June 4th 2003 @ 08:24:38
This vehicle was the 73,905th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381
This vehicle was the 1,862nd 75 1.8 T Club SE to be made out of 3,980
This vehicle was the 6,856th 75 in Wedgewood Blue to be made out of 7,515 Wedgewood Blue 75s
solarsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd