Hi Line - New MG Double Din Installation - Page 4

Duotone · 11th March 2010, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeners

The HK amp and sub is definately part of the hiline harness and not the main
body harness

As you say David.

I know you have removed one or two of these systems so I have to agree with you.

David, would you say that the speakers are connected from the HK system to the BMW plug behind the dashboard, because if so then, connecting the double din unit to the BMW plug via a ISO/BMW converter would make the sound system work OK. just without the HK system amp.

The HK system could be re connected, that is with quite a bit of re-wiring at a later date..

Dave T

Greeners · 11th March 2010, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duotone

As you say David.

I know you have removed one or two of these systems so I have to agree with you.

David, would you say that the speakers are connected from the HK system to the BMW plug behind the dashboard, because if so then, connecting the double din unit to the BMW plug via a ISO/BMW converter would make the sound system work OK. just without the HK system amp.

The HK system could be re connected, that is with quite a bit of re-wiring at a later date..

Dave T

Spot on Dave, the BMW connector has the speaker wiring on, that way, it didn't matter what audio system the car was built with, the speaker wiring was always the same.

Fitting the DD unit is straight forward as you say, BMW to ISO adaptor and a longer ISO aerial lead....job done.

Adding the amp and sub is the hard bit....

truggyracer79 · 29th March 2010, 20:35

HI!

Here is another one, who wants to know, how to get the amp working...

Of Course I know, that I'll have to wire a new loom from the radio to the amp. But which connectors can I use?

I would say it's much easier, to buy a new sub-amp and operate the other speakers directly from the radio.

If anyone has pictures of the right plugs to use on the original HK sub, please let me know.

italianstallion · 29th March 2010, 20:37

Well my units on its way from Radioguy, and I'm going to be creating a how to, so watch this space.

searover · 8th April 2010, 09:08

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KimRG · 25th April 2010, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by italianstallion

How do I install this on a Highline car thread!!!

Thought I'd make a separate thread for this as the other ones getting rather long, and is more related to the purchasing of the unit.

I've ordered one, but have no idea how to install on a Hi Line car. I have so far heard there maybe some issues with connecting the speakers up, and also the aerial lead.

Has anyone installed one of these yet on a High Line car yet, and could you briefly guide me through the process. I also need to know what parts of the high line setup must be kept for the new unit to function.

I aim to make a how two, when mine arrives next week.

I'll be interested in how you set up the unit in your high line system. Whilst I am led to beleive that the system can interface with the steering wheel controls, I'm interested to see if it interfaces with the on board computer for trip milage fuel consumption etc. If it dose'nt will the on board computer still display in the instrument display cluste via the stork on the steering column?

Does anyone have any ideas?

italianstallion · 25th April 2010, 16:50

I now have the unit installed and operational on my Hi-Line / Harmon Kardon SE spec car. Its still a work in progress as I need to purchase a new amp and a digital tv tuner to get absolutely everything up and running.

Below are the steps required to install everything. I'm sure others will find a superior way of doing things then the following method, but this worked for me. Also it may be possible to adapt and use the existing HK amp to work with the new chinese unit, but by far the easiest option when I did mine, was to set up wiring and connections for a new amp.

Finally I don't take any credit for the installation as MrIan from the MG Owners forum was the overall braun and brains behind the operation, he did most of the hard stuff whilst I stood back and watched. Sadly I wasn't able to take pictures, as we started work late on and it got dark quickly, so I must apologies about this.

Just to add that I purchased my new MG Rover unit from Radioguy who is our very own dealer, and is the only seller offering a proper warranty backed with solid support right here on the forums. Give Radioguy (Sean) a PM if your after one.

Instructions - How to install the new MG / Rover Double Din on a Hi-Line / Harmon Kardon spec car:

What cables do you need to buy before starting? For aerials - 2 x 5 or 6 metre Car Aerial Extension Cables for Radio and TV aerials. For Amplifier - 1 x red Positive, 1 x brown Negative, and 1 x blue AMP on / off cables, lengths dependant on power source and AMP location. I used the car battery conveniently located in the boot of my 260.

Step 1) Swap the New Head Unit - First You will need to remove the old Hi-Line Unit, second the air-con unit including its panel and screws. Third remove the other functions unit including its panel and screws. Lastly remove the cup holder / cigar lighter unit, this has two clips at both sides of the compartment which when compressed allows the unit to be pulled out.

Doing the above will will finally expose either two hidden ISO Connectors or two BMW connectors that will require a BMW to ISO adapter. These ISO connectors or adapted BMW to ISO connectors are then plugged into the new unit, and hey presto you have full power & sound to the cars speakers.

Step 2) Install steering wheel controls - Connect the steering wheel control cables up by doing the following. From the red plastic connector that comes with the unit, you will find black and green wires that are labeled steering wheel controls. Next look inside the centre console, and you will find a yellow / green / blue all in one plastic connector. You can't miss this, as its shaped exactly to fit the new unit. From this connector, the middle green plastic part will have 1 purple/blue wire, and 1 orange/blue wire connected to it. Cut these wires loose. Now splice or solder the purple/blue wire to the black wire , and the orange/blue wire to the green wire as mentioned above. I don't think it matters if you do it the other way round. This makes the steering controls function perfectly. Don't forget you will also need to setup the software controls in the units setup menu.

Step 3) Route GPS antenna - Route the GPS antenna cable and reciever from the back of the unit, then underneath the steering wheel column and out to the top right corner of the dash. Placement in this area gives excellent signal.

Step 4) Route TV / Radio aerials - Connect 5 metre aerial extension cables to the the existing Hi-Line aerials that are found in the rear of the car. The radio aerial connector is found in the boot. The Tv aerial is behind the beige plastic upper panel, that is located just above the near side passenger seat belt. Once the extension cables are connected to the aerials jacks, route both the TV aerial, and the Radio aerial extensions from the rear of the car, to the front behind the centre console. Then connect the radio aerial cable to new head unit. The TV aerial can be connected to a free view box placed in the glove compartment. I haven't purchased a free view box yet, but now my TV aerial cable is sitting ready to plug and play.

Step 5) Reconnecting the Harmon Kardon sub - 1st Route red and white stereo jack plugs from the back of the chinese unit into the boot where your new amp is going to be located. 2nd Route the blue amp switch on / off wire from unit to the boot where the amp is going to be located. 3rd route a red permanent live positive from battery to where the amp is located. 4th Route a brown negative cable from cars body to where amp is located. Last route 4 speaker wires from the harmon sub to the amp. You will not be able to use the Harmon Kardon amp using this method, as it has an non standard connector that is specific to the Hi-Line HK setup. You will need to buy an alternative amp, which is what I'm in the process of doing.

Cable Routing Instructions from rear to front - The best way is take the new wires from the behind the centre console, then behind the steering column, round the back of the boot release, and then down the drivers side of the car, under the carpet in the footwells, and then on into the boot area. This is easier then it sounds, unless you discover a swimming pools in the footwell like I did

Hope this helps some people who are planning on installing the unit on a High-Line / Harmon Kardon spec car. Any questions ask away.

Mintman · 26th April 2010, 14:22

Many thanks italianstallion for that excellent How-To.

So no more brainteaser with the fitting

Cheers and thanks again

Mintman

scgfull · 26th April 2010, 17:00

May I second the Thanks. A very useful How-to, especially for those of us still pondering the purchase.

italianstallion · 26th April 2010, 18:35

Thanks guys will continue to update the how to as, as I install the digi box and amp.

8th April 2010, 09:08	#35
searover Newbie Rover 75 CDT, MG ZT-T 190 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tallinn Posts: 18 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	maybe this item can help? http://www.cardvdkit.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=156 __________________ beer & happy

25th April 2010, 16:50	#37
italianstallion Loves to post Currently - Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wakefield Posts: 447 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Instructions on How to install the new MG / Rover unit on a Hi-Line / HK spec car. I now have the unit installed and operational on my Hi-Line / Harmon Kardon SE spec car. Its still a work in progress as I need to purchase a new amp and a digital tv tuner to get absolutely everything up and running. Below are the steps required to install everything. I'm sure others will find a superior way of doing things then the following method, but this worked for me. Also it may be possible to adapt and use the existing HK amp to work with the new chinese unit, but by far the easiest option when I did mine, was to set up wiring and connections for a new amp. Finally I don't take any credit for the installation as MrIan from the MG Owners forum was the overall braun and brains behind the operation, he did most of the hard stuff whilst I stood back and watched. Sadly I wasn't able to take pictures, as we started work late on and it got dark quickly, so I must apologies about this. Just to add that I purchased my new MG Rover unit from Radioguy who is our very own dealer, and is the only seller offering a proper warranty backed with solid support right here on the forums. Give Radioguy (Sean) a PM if your after one. Instructions - How to install the new MG / Rover Double Din on a Hi-Line / Harmon Kardon spec car: What cables do you need to buy before starting? For aerials - 2 x 5 or 6 metre Car Aerial Extension Cables for Radio and TV aerials. For Amplifier - 1 x red Positive, 1 x brown Negative, and 1 x blue AMP on / off cables, lengths dependant on power source and AMP location. I used the car battery conveniently located in the boot of my 260. Step 1) Swap the New Head Unit - First You will need to remove the old Hi-Line Unit, second the air-con unit including its panel and screws. Third remove the other functions unit including its panel and screws. Lastly remove the cup holder / cigar lighter unit, this has two clips at both sides of the compartment which when compressed allows the unit to be pulled out. Doing the above will will finally expose either two hidden ISO Connectors or two BMW connectors that will require a BMW to ISO adapter. These ISO connectors or adapted BMW to ISO connectors are then plugged into the new unit, and hey presto you have full power & sound to the cars speakers. Step 2) Install steering wheel controls - Connect the steering wheel control cables up by doing the following. From the red plastic connector that comes with the unit, you will find black and green wires that are labeled steering wheel controls. Next look inside the centre console, and you will find a yellow / green / blue all in one plastic connector. You can't miss this, as its shaped exactly to fit the new unit. From this connector, the middle green plastic part will have 1 purple/blue wire, and 1 orange/blue wire connected to it. Cut these wires loose. Now splice or solder the purple/blue wire to the black wire , and the orange/blue wire to the green wire as mentioned above. I don't think it matters if you do it the other way round. This makes the steering controls function perfectly. Don't forget you will also need to setup the software controls in the units setup menu. Step 3) Route GPS antenna - Route the GPS antenna cable and reciever from the back of the unit, then underneath the steering wheel column and out to the top right corner of the dash. Placement in this area gives excellent signal. Step 4) Route TV / Radio aerials - Connect 5 metre aerial extension cables to the the existing Hi-Line aerials that are found in the rear of the car. The radio aerial connector is found in the boot. The Tv aerial is behind the beige plastic upper panel, that is located just above the near side passenger seat belt. Once the extension cables are connected to the aerials jacks, route both the TV aerial, and the Radio aerial extensions from the rear of the car, to the front behind the centre console. Then connect the radio aerial cable to new head unit. The TV aerial can be connected to a free view box placed in the glove compartment. I haven't purchased a free view box yet, but now my TV aerial cable is sitting ready to plug and play. Step 5) Reconnecting the Harmon Kardon sub - 1st Route red and white stereo jack plugs from the back of the chinese unit into the boot where your new amp is going to be located. 2nd Route the blue amp switch on / off wire from unit to the boot where the amp is going to be located. 3rd route a red permanent live positive from battery to where the amp is located. 4th Route a brown negative cable from cars body to where amp is located. Last route 4 speaker wires from the harmon sub to the amp. You will not be able to use the Harmon Kardon amp using this method, as it has an non standard connector that is specific to the Hi-Line HK setup. You will need to buy an alternative amp, which is what I'm in the process of doing. Cable Routing Instructions from rear to front - The best way is take the new wires from the behind the centre console, then behind the steering column, round the back of the boot release, and then down the drivers side of the car, under the carpet in the footwells, and then on into the boot area. This is easier then it sounds, unless you discover a swimming pools in the footwell like I did Hope this helps some people who are planning on installing the unit on a High-Line / Harmon Kardon spec car. Any questions ask away. Last edited by italianstallion; 26th April 2010 at 17:38..

26th April 2010, 14:22	#38
Mintman Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer Conoisseur & MG ZT-T& MGF Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bettemburg Posts: 149 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Many thanks italianstallion for that excellent How-To. So no more brainteaser with the fitting Cheers and thanks again Mintman __________________ http://www.r75.info

26th April 2010, 17:00	#39
scgfull Loves to post none Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: resigned - but can't get off Posts: 286 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	May I second the Thanks. A very useful How-to, especially for those of us still pondering the purchase. __________________ Steve Memeber 4069

29th March 2010, 20:35	#33
truggyracer79 Newbie MG ZT-T Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ludwigsburg Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HI! Here is another one, who wants to know, how to get the amp working... Of Course I know, that I'll have to wire a new loom from the radio to the amp. But which connectors can I use? I would say it's much easier, to buy a new sub-amp and operate the other speakers directly from the radio. If anyone has pictures of the right plugs to use on the original HK sub, please let me know.

29th March 2010, 20:37	#34
italianstallion Loves to post Currently - Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wakefield Posts: 447 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well my units on its way from Radioguy, and I'm going to be creating a how to, so watch this space.

26th April 2010, 18:35	#40
italianstallion Loves to post Currently - Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wakefield Posts: 447 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys will continue to update the how to as, as I install the digi box and amp.