Accident

bl52krz · 10th July 2017, 11:16

When you say she was not paying attention, was she on her phone? Did you see her coming round the corner? I would say that she obviously was travelling to fast for the conditions, and not in accordance with normal driving practice. On the other hand, did you see her coming before you started to reverse, and thought you could complete your manouverin before she got anywhere near you?

Mertens34 · 10th July 2017, 11:25

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Originally Posted by bl52krz

When you say she was not paying attention, was she on her phone? Did you see her coming round the corner? I would say that she obviously was travelling to fast for the conditions, and not in accordance with normal driving practice. On the other hand, did you see her coming before you started to reverse, and thought you could complete your manouverin before she got anywhere near you?

She probably was (she didnt see me at all, didnt even brake) but i cant proof it.....

And i did NOT reverse! i was leaving the parking area (driving forward).
we were both driving the same direction on the same road when she hit me.

fega72 · 10th July 2017, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Mertens34

She probably was (she didnt see me at all, didnt even brake) but i cant proof it.....

And i did NOT reverse! i was leaving the parking area (driving forward).
we were both driving the same direction on the same road when she hit me.

If you both driving the same direction, then it is clearly her fault.

roverbarmy · 10th July 2017, 13:06

If she drove into the back of your car, it must have been her fault!

Mertens34 · 10th July 2017, 13:15

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Originally Posted by roverbarmy

If she drove into the back of your car, it must have been her fault!

IT WAS HER FAULT

but according to some stupid Dutch laws im responsible....

But to get back to my question.

Does anybody know how hard i must be hit in order for the side side airbag (passenger seat) to deploy?

Mike Noc · 11th July 2017, 23:54

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Originally Posted by roverbarmy

If she drove into the back of your car, it must have been her fault!

Quite, but from the damage, and the fact that the side air bag deployed, it looks as though she hit the rear side of the OP's car, and not the back as shown in the diagram.

If she wasn't there when he pulled out then she must have been travelling too fast, but without any witnesses or CCTV footage it will be impossible to prove.

macafee2 · 10th July 2017, 13:23

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Originally Posted by fega72

If you both driving the same direction, then it is clearly her fault.

I don't see it that way. The OP has moved from a parked parking space into the traffic lane. Just like moving away from the hard shoulder into lane 1. So not clearly her fault I my opinion.
Now looking at the diagram and the Yellow route there seems to be a lot of visibility to the Blue "square". To me either the blue square pulled out just in front of the yellow giving yellow insufficient time to stop or yellow was driving to fast or not paying attention of not intending to stop.

I would suggest yellow has right of way and so I'm leaning towards Blue being in the wrong but..... yellow knowing they are to go round a bend, should be driving at a speed where she can stop in the distance she can see.
The didn't brake bit of yellow is an issue.

If Blue can not prove speed or driver not paying attention I think it difficult to prove yellow at fault and best outcome I can see is going 50/50 . Any cctv covering the car park?

At what times did op look to his right from the time he started moving until impact? If op did not look right enough times or at appropriate times then oh dear.

anyway I'm sorry for the accident and hope it can be sorted without too much expense

macafee2

Mertens34 · 10th July 2017, 13:37

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Originally Posted by macafee2

I don't see it that way. The OP has moved from a parked parking space into the traffic lane. Just like moving away from the hard shoulder into lane 1. So not clearly her fault I my opinion.
Now looking at the diagram and the Yellow route there seems to be a lot of visibility to the Blue "square". To me either the blue square pulled out just in front of the yellow giving yellow insufficient time to stop or yellow was driving to fast or not paying attention of not intending to stop.

I would suggest yellow has right of way and so I'm leaning towards Blue being in the wrong but..... yellow knowing they are to go round a bend, should be driving at a speed where she can stop in the distance she can see.
The didn't brake bit of yellow is an issue.

If Blue can not prove speed or driver not paying attention I think it difficult to prove yellow at fault and best outcome I can see is going 50/50 . Any cctv covering the car park?

At what times did op look to his right from the time he started moving until impact? If op did not look right enough times or at appropriate times then oh dear.

anyway I'm sorry for the accident and hope it can be sorted without too much expense

macafee2

You sir are correct. I just called all surrounding companies which might have some kind of camera footage but to no avail.....

But i did look to my right when i was leaving the parking spot. Her car was NOT in sight so i pulled out.

I know that she was not paying attention because she hit me quite hard.....the fact that she didnt brake is also an indication that she wasnt paying attention (otherwise she would hit the brake and not hit me/hit me but with less damage)

Thats why i mentioned she was driving a little Ford KA. IF she was paying attention there would be no way she could hit me that hard and cause all that damage with such a small car.

However i still somehow have to prove that she was responsible for the crash and not me. And i think my side airbag deploying could be a good indication.

hence my question

rustymotor · 10th July 2017, 15:32

What does the other driver say about it?

Our postman had a nice ford mondeo and was hit by a KA the mondeo was a write off and the KA was fine.

I would put the KA at fault travelling too fast in a car park and without due care.

Any eye witness or cctv?

Mertens34 · 10th July 2017, 17:49

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Originally Posted by rustymotor

What does the other driver say about it?

Our postman had a nice ford mondeo and was hit by a KA the mondeo was a write off and the KA was fine.

I would put the KA at fault travelling too fast in a car park and without due care.

Any eye witness or cctv?

No eye witness or cctv

BTW can someone answer my question regarding the side airbag deploying please?

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rustymotor Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: May 2017 Location: Hull Posts: 1,848 Thanks: 216 Thanked 432 Times in 340 Posts	What does the other driver say about it? Our postman had a nice ford mondeo and was hit by a KA the mondeo was a write off and the KA was fine. I would put the KA at fault travelling too fast in a car park and without due care. Any eye witness or cctv?