Working for the tax man

tigerchubs · 22nd November 2007, 16:20

I wonder what qualifications you need to get a job at HMRC, It appears being able to work un-supervised, be a quick learner and displaying common sense, are not high on their list of requirements.

They send out un-encrypted information which was not requested on disc, drop them in a jiffy bag and whack on a stamp. I turns out this isn't the first time disc's have been lost by HMRC either, so they clearly don't learn from their mistakes. Where do they get these people?

I'm sure listening to brown and co on TV has made 25million people feel a whole lot better.

JohnDotCom · 22nd November 2007, 16:32

You wait till the ID cards start,
with all that info.
Terrorist and Criminals will have a field day!

trebor · 22nd November 2007, 16:55

Hope thats not me you are taking about as i work for HMRC !

Dont worry i am not offended and no need for mods to step in.

I dont blame you for your comments as those of us who do have common sense and work in the department cannot understand it either.

I work in Telford and we have to wear id passes to get in car parks and buildings and lock our computers whenever we leave our desks, even for a few minutes. Even though HMRC does have sensitive details I would not be able to access or download anything that does not relate directly to my job and even if i could there is an anti fraud team monitoring what we access - dismissal the penalty for unauthorised access !

Security is in place therefore, lots of it, so looks like somebody has not followed the laid down guidance in this case.

I have no inside knowledge of what has happened no doubt it will be reported in the press before long for all to see.

Today all staff have been denied access to download anything to disc, floppy disc or memory stick as a result of recent developments and this will cause problems for those of us who are compliant with the regs.

Today i had to do a presentation in another buildng and tried to copy the slides from my computer to memory stick only to find access denied. I had to print out the slides and use as handouts !

HMRC currently has around 80,000 staff - please dont tar us all with the same brush.

JohnDotCom · 22nd November 2007, 17:18

Your comments are very Note worthy and no disrespect was meant to any Individuals.
The point I was trying to make is, It should not be able to happen, this is the third "Loss" of sensitive information, and someone should be keeping a tighter reign on it.
The people in charge are always ultimately responsible and it is their job to sort it out.
Nobody wanted to go to bank Payments etc, many OAP's loved going to the PO and being able to take their books there and have a Chat.
Rant Over, and hope your work atmosphere turns to normal soon for you.

tigerchubs · 22nd November 2007, 18:24

Trebor anyone who drives a 75 clearly has common sense in bucket loads as I am sure the vast majority of your collegues do.

Beware the numpties there everywhere.

trebor · 22nd November 2007, 19:29

Theres only 3 75's on the car park i go on though !

wicksy_64 · 22nd November 2007, 21:36

HMRC currently has around 80,000 staff - please dont tar us all with the same brush.

Theres only 3 75's on the car park i go on though

That leaves the remaining 79,997 without fathers.

BigRuss · 23rd November 2007, 11:49

Well, they've certainly made it the most sought after double cd on the run up to Christmas!!!

Seriously though, it doesn't surprise me, they've managed to lose quite a few important and confidential documents I've sent to various departments.

These days I send everything registred post and ask for written conformation of reciept.

Russ

tourerfogey · 23rd November 2007, 16:48

I don't know what all the fuss is about - sooner or later the discs are bound to turn up on ebay and then they can buy them back.
problem solved

The Bear · 23rd November 2007, 16:49

Yeh but Cuz they are rare the price will bw £££££££££££££

22nd November 2007, 16:20	#1
tigerchubs Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT+ in Yorkshire Gold Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 975 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Working for the tax man I wonder what qualifications you need to get a job at HMRC, It appears being able to work un-supervised, be a quick learner and displaying common sense, are not high on their list of requirements. They send out un-encrypted information which was not requested on disc, drop them in a jiffy bag and whack on a stamp. I turns out this isn't the first time disc's have been lost by HMRC either, so they clearly don't learn from their mistakes. Where do they get these people? I'm sure listening to brown and co on TV has made 25million people feel a whole lot better. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

22nd November 2007, 16:55	#3
trebor This is my second home Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE & MG ZT Saloon 190 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Coven Posts: 12,530 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,877 Times in 885 Posts	Hope thats not me you are taking about as i work for HMRC ! Dont worry i am not offended and no need for mods to step in. I dont blame you for your comments as those of us who do have common sense and work in the department cannot understand it either. I work in Telford and we have to wear id passes to get in car parks and buildings and lock our computers whenever we leave our desks, even for a few minutes. Even though HMRC does have sensitive details I would not be able to access or download anything that does not relate directly to my job and even if i could there is an anti fraud team monitoring what we access - dismissal the penalty for unauthorised access ! Security is in place therefore, lots of it, so looks like somebody has not followed the laid down guidance in this case. I have no inside knowledge of what has happened no doubt it will be reported in the press before long for all to see. Today all staff have been denied access to download anything to disc, floppy disc or memory stick as a result of recent developments and this will cause problems for those of us who are compliant with the regs. Today i had to do a presentation in another buildng and tried to copy the slides from my computer to memory stick only to find access denied. I had to print out the slides and use as handouts ! HMRC currently has around 80,000 staff - please dont tar us all with the same brush. __________________ www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk Robs Car Gallery Coven near Wolverhampton WV9 2000 Cowley Built Rover 75 2.0 V6 Club SE/ Atlantic Blue/ Sandstone/Walnut (daily driver) 2003 Land Rover Freelander 1 TD4 HSE Helsinki Blue/Black Leather (swmbo daily driver)

22nd November 2007, 18:24	#5
tigerchubs Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT+ in Yorkshire Gold Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 975 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Trebor anyone who drives a 75 clearly has common sense in bucket loads as I am sure the vast majority of your collegues do. Beware the numpties there everywhere. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

22nd November 2007, 19:29	#6
trebor This is my second home Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE & MG ZT Saloon 190 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Coven Posts: 12,530 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,877 Times in 885 Posts	Theres only 3 75's on the car park i go on though ! __________________ www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk Robs Car Gallery Coven near Wolverhampton WV9 2000 Cowley Built Rover 75 2.0 V6 Club SE/ Atlantic Blue/ Sandstone/Walnut (daily driver) 2003 Land Rover Freelander 1 TD4 HSE Helsinki Blue/Black Leather (swmbo daily driver)

23rd November 2007, 16:49	#10
The Bear Loves to post MG ZT 190+ Commision No 000297 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeh but Cuz they are rare the price will bw £££££££££££££ __________________ "Live long and prosper" Member 213

22nd November 2007, 16:32	#2
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	You wait till the ID cards start, with all that info. Terrorist and Criminals will have a field day!

22nd November 2007, 17:18	#4
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Your comments are very Note worthy and no disrespect was meant to any Individuals. The point I was trying to make is, It should not be able to happen, this is the third "Loss" of sensitive information, and someone should be keeping a tighter reign on it. The people in charge are always ultimately responsible and it is their job to sort it out. Nobody wanted to go to bank Payments etc, many OAP's loved going to the PO and being able to take their books there and have a Chat. Rant Over, and hope your work atmosphere turns to normal soon for you.

22nd November 2007, 21:36	#7
wicksy_64 Avid contributor Rover 75 connie se Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nottingham Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HMRC currently has around 80,000 staff - please dont tar us all with the same brush. Theres only 3 75's on the car park i go on though That leaves the remaining 79,997 without fathers.

23rd November 2007, 11:49	#8
BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,419 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Well, they've certainly made it the most sought after double cd on the run up to Christmas!!! Seriously though, it doesn't surprise me, they've managed to lose quite a few important and confidential documents I've sent to various departments. These days I send everything registred post and ask for written conformation of reciept. Russ

23rd November 2007, 16:48	#9
tourerfogey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I don't know what all the fuss is about - sooner or later the discs are bound to turn up on ebay and then they can buy them back. problem solved