Go Back   The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > Social Forums > Social Forum
Register FAQ Image Gallery Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20th January 2021, 10:34   #21
BRG75
Gets stuck in
 
BRG75's Avatar
 
Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sevenoaks
Posts: 971
Thanks: 670
Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts
Default

I would just like to echo a point made in post 8.

Modern cars, by design, go into limp mode (at best) or engines just pack up.

The significant point being "without prior warning"

Pre modern electronics, you had a good chance of detecting a misfire, or similar, to warn you that a breakdown was on the cards, enabling you to get onto the hard shoulder (on a motorway) or to a "safe" parking location on other types of road.

Mike
__________________
Presently
2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold
2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold

Previously
2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE,
2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car)
1997 420 (Company Car)
1996 216 cabriolet,
198? 213 VDP
1986 SD1 V8 VDP,
1968 2000TC,
1966 2000.

Last edited by BRG75; 20th January 2021 at 10:37..
BRG75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2021, 08:56   #22
macafee2
This is my second home
 
Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 14,890
Thanks: 1,630
Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts
Default

I hve not read all of this thread so sorry if already said.
I'm sure I heard on the news Highways or the Government were to be taken to court due to a death on a smart motorway

just found this https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...rt-road-safety

macafee2
macafee2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2021, 10:31   #23
cat
Avid contributor
 
Rover 75 Tourer

Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Warrington
Posts: 115
Thanks: 76
Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts
Default

Is there a map or list of real motorways(non-smart) anywhere? I don't drive on the motorway that often but would like to know if it was possible to avoid, unlikely I know. Would be a good addition to GPS software to use a 'avoid smart motorways' like you can choose to 'avoid motorways'. Only an evil person would have thought smart motorways were a good idea, I couldn't believe it was a real suggestion when I first heard about them.
cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2021, 14:01   #24
Dorset Bob
Senior Citizen
 
Dorset Bob's Avatar
 
Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur SE,Chrysler 300C,124 Spider, Daytona 955i,Honda XL250 & Royal Enfield 650GT

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Kingdom of Wessex
Posts: 6,976
Thanks: 2,391
Thanked 2,685 Times in 1,686 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRG75 View Post
...Modern cars, by design, go into limp mode (at best) or engines just pack up.

The significant point being "without prior warning"....
It was a while ago, before "Smart" motorways and I suffered that experience.

I was travelling west on the M40, in a newish company car.
It was a Friday afternoon, raining, with heavy traffic and I was in lane 3, when I experienced a total electrical failure.

Now I became sitting duck out there with no lights, indicators or windscreen wipers.
Trying to negotiate my way to the hard shoulder was a challenge, particularly with some other motorists were having none of it.
I managed to get into lane 2, when the engine shut down and so the PAS went on strike too.
Fortunately, I got to lane 1 and the hard shoulder without incident.

I was lucky to have made it, but if I didn't have the refuge of the hard shoulder I think the outcome would have been very different.

The police were there within minutes, and as the vehicle had no lights or hazards, stayed with me until I was recovered.
Try getting that kind of service from a Speed Camera.
__________________



Let the good times roll............



Dorset Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2021, 15:21   #25
wraymond
I will find or make a way
 
wraymond's Avatar
 
75 Auto 2.5 SE

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Westcliff on Sea
Posts: 5,168
Thanks: 423
Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts
Default

If the revolving doors of the civil (!) service were a one way route, with similar hazards to public safety, I suspect the idiotic cost cutting infantile adventures would be moderated.

Responsibility coupled with Liability seem to be Fairyland concepts to virtually every governmental department with only promotion following abject failure.
__________________
member no. 235
wraymond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2021, 17:30   #26
macafee2
This is my second home
 
Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 14,890
Thanks: 1,630
Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts
Default

Make sure you leave a damn good gap between you and the vehicle in front so you can see ahead. That is all well and good but vehicles often pull in "close" to you cutting your visibility. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-eng...shire-50004463 prime example

macafee2

Last edited by macafee2; 21st February 2021 at 17:33..
macafee2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd February 2021, 16:02   #27
mileshawk56
Posted a thing or two
 
mileshawk56's Avatar
 
MGZT

Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 1,272
Thanks: 1,738
Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts
Default

We should never, ever refer to these roads as "smart" Always use the word "stupid" instead and by doing this you undermine their position. Chris S.
mileshawk56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th March 2021, 15:41   #28
Dorset Bob
Senior Citizen
 
Dorset Bob's Avatar
 
Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur SE,Chrysler 300C,124 Spider, Daytona 955i,Honda XL250 & Royal Enfield 650GT

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Kingdom of Wessex
Posts: 6,976
Thanks: 2,391
Thanked 2,685 Times in 1,686 Posts
Default Institute of Advanced Motorists - Survey

I have just received my E Newsletter from the I.A.M. which has the following:-

Smart Motorways Survey

"A new House of Commons Transport Committee inquiry has been announced by MPs into the safety and roll out of smart motorways. Campaigners against them have called for them to be scrapped, some labelling them as ‘death traps’.
One coroner concluded that smart motorways ‘present an ongoing risk of future deaths’ while another has referred Highways England to the Crown Prosecution Service to consider if corporate manslaughter charges may be appropriate.
The government has promised improvements and in March 2020 published an 18-point action plan to enhance their safety.

Against this controversial background we are keen to get your views on smart motorways and have designed a short survey, it will remain open until 26 March."

Complete the Survey

You do not have to be a member of the I.A.M to complete this quick survey.
__________________



Let the good times roll............



Dorset Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th March 2021, 16:03   #29
cat
Avid contributor
 
Rover 75 Tourer

Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Warrington
Posts: 115
Thanks: 76
Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts
Default

Done.
Please update us on the results if possible.
cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th March 2021, 16:36   #30
Rick-sta
This is my second home
 
Rick-sta's Avatar
 
MG ZT 2.0 CDTI+ in Typhoon, MG TF 135 in Typhoon & Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTI SE in Pearl Black

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 7,523
Thanks: 2,718
Thanked 2,827 Times in 1,462 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorset Bob View Post
I have just received my E Newsletter from the I.A.M. which has the following:-

Smart Motorways Survey

"A new House of Commons Transport Committee inquiry has been announced by MPs into the safety and roll out of smart motorways. Campaigners against them have called for them to be scrapped, some labelling them as ‘death traps’.
One coroner concluded that smart motorways ‘present an ongoing risk of future deaths’ while another has referred Highways England to the Crown Prosecution Service to consider if corporate manslaughter charges may be appropriate.
The government has promised improvements and in March 2020 published an 18-point action plan to enhance their safety.

Against this controversial background we are keen to get your views on smart motorways and have designed a short survey, it will remain open until 26 March."

Complete the Survey

You do not have to be a member of the I.A.M to complete this quick survey.
Just completed the survey.
__________________
How to retrofit Cruise Control on a diesel with no OEM wiring in place: Link
How to retrofit heated electric memory seats with no OEM wiring in place: Link
How to operate FBH and ATC via text Link
How to restore cloudy projector headlights Link
Rick-sta is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:05.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd