2 dead and 3 serious

[macafee2]

A stolen car has hit pedestrians in South London killing an adult female and a young boy. 3 girls left injured.

Police were chasing stolen car at the time.

I hope driver gets full term sentence for each death and injury to run consecutively, not concurrently.

All the people did it seems was go to the park....now we have shattered lives

macafee2

[Mason6]

So sad but the Police will probably get the blame as usual

[lady zed]

Originally Posted by Mason6

So sad but the Police will probably get the blame as usual

And so they should! They have a duty of care and the Met seem to have a terrible reputation for a gung ho attitude when it comes to car chases! I bet the pursuers had no training for that kind of situation but did it anyway.

[Dallas]

Its believed 20 people lifted the car and the girls crawled out, can you imagine... amazing!

Police will first give chase in the hope the driver will pull over, but when that fails they should back-off.

Reading that article, it states over the last 10 years 252 members of the public have died following road traffic incidents involving the police in England and Wales. that figure should be zero.

[Mason6]

Originally Posted by lady zed

And so they should! They have a duty of care and the Met seem to have a terrible reputation for a gung ho attitude when it comes to car chases! I bet the pursuers had no training for that kind of situation but did it anyway.

... and your basing this on what evidence?

Unless you've been involved in this type of situation there's only opinion and you are, of course entitled to yours!

I absolutely agree a car is not worth the life of anyone however a knee jerk reaction is not always helpful and I would suspect that the officers involved in the pursuit will not exactly be feeling on top of the world right now!
Oh and I am assuming that if the pursuit vehicles were BMW's they would be manned by suitably trained and authorised traffic cops and not response drivers.
Had the BMW pulled over when signalled to do so .... end of

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by Mason6

Had the BMW pulled over when signalled to do so .... end of

It was a black Ford Focus, the BMW was the police car, plus there were more than one (there is no need).

The Police should not give chase by directly following the vehicle, that alone is the cause of all these awful incidents/deaths. The driver/joyrider who is behind the wheel of the pursued vehicle is then fixed on adrenalin, its all down hill from there on.

[Mason6]

Originally Posted by Dallas

It was a black Ford Focus, the BMW was the police car, plus there were more than one (there is no need).

The Police should not give chase by directly following the vehicle, that alone is the cause of all these awful incidents/deaths. The driver/joyrider who is behind the wheel of the pursued vehicle is then fixed on adrenalin, its all down hill from there on.

Regarding the Focus I stand corrected sir!

Under "normal" circumstances in order to bring a pursuit to a satisfactory conclusion without anyone being hurt the requirement is 3 traffic cars for T-pack.

This is yet another very sad case and blame will be levied in all directions however situations such as this arise every day and have to be dealt with one way or another.

[Typhoon190]

Originally Posted by Dallas

It was a black Ford Focus, the BMW was the police car, plus there were more than one (there is no need).

The Police should not give chase by directly following the vehicle, that alone is the cause of all these awful incidents/deaths. The driver/joyrider who is behind the wheel of the pursued vehicle is then fixed on adrenalin, its all down hill from there on.

Police giving chase is the single cause of the incidents???

Sorry, but no. The single cause of these incidents is the single individual, taking from others, with no respect or care for others, men women children or otherwise.

[lady zed]

Originally Posted by Mason6

... and your basing this on what evidence?

Unless you've been involved in this type of situation there's only opinion and you are, of course entitled to yours!

I absolutely agree a car is not worth the life of anyone however a knee jerk reaction is not always helpful and I would suspect that the officers involved in the pursuit will not exactly be feeling on top of the world right now!
Oh and I am assuming that if the pursuit vehicles were BMW's they would be manned by suitably trained and authorised traffic cops and not response drivers.
Had the BMW pulled over when signalled to do so .... end of

Apparently they caught their man and handcuffed him before going to the aid of those tapped underneath the car.

Statistically if you're going to be killed due to a police chase gone wrong, then it's more likely to happen in London. Perhaps that's due to the population head count, perhaps the built up nature of London but it's really a statistic the Met should be trying to do something about.

Yeah, whatever happened, and I'm not saying for a moment that the car thief is without blame, he absolutely should be held accountable, but the police also have to ask themselves is it worth the risk and in this case, it clearly was not.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by lady zed

Yeah, whatever happened, and I'm not saying for a moment that the car thief is without blame, he absolutely should be held accountable, but the police also have to ask themselves is it worth the risk and in this case, it clearly was not.

I have to agree.
1.Police are trained to drive their high powered cars and can handle them after costly driving programmes. Driving skills high.
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2. ****s like this idiot driver, driving skills, drugged, high or whatever, Driving skills next to nil

I wonder if this should have been a 'pull back' mission from the police to protect safety. At the worst they could have found the car, burnt out or not.
I'm sure all will be told to us through the media.