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Old 20th June 2019, 18:32   #1
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Default The Journey Begins Days of Thunder Project.

Good evening all how's everybody doing hope your keeping okay.

I've decided today thought about this for a very long time, Eventually I came too a derision once I start there's no turning back till its complete as the saying goes don't just say it do it.

That's what I'm going too do.

I hope you enjoy this project journey with me and I'd very happy too hear your input and information you have regrading the subjects I'll be covering.

I hope I can aspire and crate new ideas for anyone wanting too give this a sport or project a go.

My goal no matter how long it takes is too build my very own Racing car and still be legal on the road for shows and meets and ultimately too compete.

It will be costly I understand this but this the car I feel very passionate about it and I feel it can do well as for me the driver I feel connected too the car in terms of its performance which I've got used too during track days I've been on, Its not the Fastest car on the planet but its how it makes me feel and that's something you can never take away.

The topics I'll be covering during this adventure will be.

Motorsport rules and Regulations.

MSA/Motor Sports Association Courses and license's.

Health and safety regarding equipment that's needed.

Steering systems and upgrades too them.

Axles and suspension.

Engine and transmissions.

Aerodynamics.

Cooling systems

and much more.

This isn't going too be a quick and easy project far from it, not going too be posting every single day, But will be keeping a record on what goes on and how its progressing.

So far I've got my racing buckets seats and a new steering wheel all FIA approved and is fully legal for motorsport.

Till the roll cages gets made I can't really do anything with the seats mainly because when the cage is made the positioning has too be correct as the racing harness when fitted will wrap and be secure on the rear brace its self, depending on the positioning of the seat and brace can determine if your fully secure on the seat or not.

Last thing you want is too worry about the very seat and safety device while on your track

Also have an idea for bonnet scoop which would be located where the induction system In creating colder and denser air while getting the added benefit of air Colling as well.

Here's rough idea and Nathan from the states has done that very same thing with different set up but the principle is still the same.

I'm still deciding what too go for I only one scoop but worried look a bit odd at the same time bring out the best out of my engine, A nice well scooped scoop a bit smaller would do me nicely.




So far that's been going on but will keep you posted.

If anyone wants too contribute by all means your advise and input could really help me out big style.

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Old 20th June 2019, 18:57   #2
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Sounds very cool Dave you need a wheelie bin to match the race car.




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Old 20th June 2019, 18:59   #3
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Lmao I think I can fit that somewhere lol.

Talk about binning it.
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When the cage is built, bolt it through the floorpan, do not weld it to the floor, welds can crack if the worst happens.
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When the cage is built, bolt it through the floorpan, do not weld it to the floor, welds can crack if the worst happens.
The FIA are not too happy with welded cages soon all cages will have too be bolted as standard rules.

Plus as you mentioned it can crack and that's when the beep hits the fan, in the event of a god for bid CRASH!!!!!!!!!!

I still want too be able too remove It If I need too.
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Quick update also slightly head scratching.

Hi Dave , I’ll be ready in 3 weeks if that’s ok?, as regards to it being FIA approved for racing you would need to use cds tube and conform to fia homologation measurements to a probe produced cage, hope this helps thanks Wyn.

Got this message off Wyn today, When he mentioned homologation measurements I have too admit I'm not too sure what that means.

Anyone can advise please.
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Yes Dave,

Basically you will need to use cold drawn seamless tube, and it must measure the minimum diameter and wall thickness for the class of racing you want to compete in.

It will also have to have the correct amount of spars in the correct places, it would be good to consult the regs for the class mate.
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Yes Dave,

Basically you will need to use cold drawn seamless tube, and it must measure the minimum diameter and wall thickness for the class of racing you want to compete in.

It will also have to have the correct amount of spars in the correct places, it would be good to consult the regs for the class mate.
Hiya Andy just got back now from Escort powers workshop had a chat with the lads about it.

Yes as you mentioned about Seamless tubes everything's has too be present and correct Regarding construction and quality of the cage.

MSA tubing is a must CDS tubing is required.

If you have the certificate too say it was made by a professional then you kind of got away with the heavy scrutinising mainly visual checks and your good too go.

A cage without the certificated will go under Extrema scrutinising even testing the cage by drilling various points and using measuring equipment too measure thickness and strength of each tube, they won't do it you the driver will have too.

Wyn's cage build experience may be brilliant but I can't risk losing that kinda of money for a cage that won't pass the MSA/FIA I can't take that risk.

So its either now looking at the cages from states or wait and see what Justin and Mark have too say, its possible too get one made here with the correct regulations and certificate.
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Yes Dave,

Basically you will need to use cold drawn seamless tube, and it must measure the minimum diameter and wall thickness for the class of racing you want to compete in.

It will also have to have the correct amount of spars in the correct places, it would be good to consult the regs for the class mate.
How would I find out for certain what class my car would compete in?

I'm certain its class C2 from looking at this.

https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/def..._9_group_c.pdf

https://historicdb.fia.com/car/ford-probe-engine
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Blooming heck Dave talk about taking on a challenge mate, all that info has already gone over my head.

I know how much you love your Probe Dave, but have you thought about buying a track-car that has already been prepared? You mention about spending a lot of money to get yours up to standard and certificated, how about putting that money towards one that's ready.

That Celica would have been a good buy if it wasn't for the engine fault, I'm sure you can find one in your price range with some help from the track guys.

Good luck with what ever you decide to do.
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