The Capri L - Page 4

Dallas · 19th March 2021, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Kerthan23

Hi, sorry to here about your troubles, Martin at caprigear will sort you out with parts you need(google) or I'm sure his number/contacts is on Capri forums, the joys of owning any car, iron out the niggles and enjoy

Cheers mate, I've used Martin a few times now, but sadly he has no 8" rear drums.

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Originally Posted by trikey

Sounds like your servo is ok Wes, are you leaking vaccum from the rubber hose or fitting?

I've changed the hose Andy and still have the issue, but may well be the non return valve fitting, its a black one and I thought they were meant to be white. Its an old Girling servo, same as on my laser, but the valve is white and at a different position.

Ian G · 19th March 2021, 19:28

Another one here Wes..
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Dallas · 19th March 2021, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Ian G

Another one here Wes..
https://barumenginesltd.com/services/

Cheers Ian, I will give them a call.

COLVERT · 19th March 2021, 20:06

Sometimes when the flexy hoses at the wheels age they swell up on the INSIDE. Pedal pressure pushes the fluid past the block but it doesn't return on its own. So the brake shoes can touch and bind in the drums.

As for the hiss. Check its location with a piece rubber flexible hose. Don't put the listening end of the hose too close to your ear just in case it tries to remove your brain.--

COLVERT · 19th March 2021, 20:13

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Originally Posted by SCP440

A hissing brake servo is usually a leaking rear seal. With no servo assistance and a return spring trying to do its thing it will be applying the brakes.

If you remove the vacuum pipe it should allow the car to move.

I use Classiccar Automotive to remanufacture brake parts, great service and the parts come back looking like new.

A hissing servo is an MOT faliure.

If you investigate I think that with a servo not working it won't apply the brakes by itself.--In fact you will find the brake pedal to be quite inefficient and the car much harder to stop.

Kerthan23 · 19th March 2021, 20:35

Did you feel brake judder at all? They are very prone for brake shoe levers seizing, had the same myself on every Capri I've owned, you need to pin point where hissing is coming from as there should be 2 rubber hoses, 1 from servo to pipe that goes around bulkhead then from that pipe to manifold, also rubber gromit on servo where white or black plastic fitting is

Dallas · 19th March 2021, 21:26

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Originally Posted by COLVERT

Sometimes when the flexy hoses at the wheels age they swell up on the INSIDE. Pedal pressure pushes the fluid past the block but it doesn't return on its own. So the brake shoes can touch and bind in the drums.

As for the hiss. Check its location with a piece rubber flexible hose. Don't put the listening end of the hose too close to your ear just in case it tries to remove your brain.--

Thanks Jon, I will do that very carefully as I don't want anything else sucking something it shouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Kerthan23

Did you feel brake judder at all? They are very prone for brake shoe levers seizing, had the same myself on every Capri I've owned, you need to pin point where hissing is coming from as there should be 2 rubber hoses, 1 from servo to pipe that goes around bulkhead then from that pipe to manifold, also rubber gromit on servo where white or black plastic fitting is

No brake judder Alan, but the more braking I do while driving the worst the rear wheels lock, it feels like the brakes are not releasing.

roverbarmy · 21st March 2021, 16:04

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Originally Posted by COLVERT

Don't put the listening end of the hose too close to your ear just in case it tries to remove your brain.--

That must be where I went wrong when balancing the carbs on my CB750!!!

Dallas · 21st March 2021, 19:04

Update on this. Something was telling me the problem cannot be just the rear brakes, as the rear wheels do move freely, O/S a bit stiff but it wouldn't be stopping the car from driving freely, but the burning smell obviously says the shoes are binding.

Light bulb moment

why don't I check the front brakes I say to myself... and guest what! The blooming front brakes are seized solid, can't turn the wheels freely at all, N/S only just moves.

The poor girl has been neglected, but now she is in good hands and will get the love she needs. Not until I can free off 1x wheel bolt that is also seized solid, what the f is holding it on, not even my wheel nut remover will remove it.

COLVERT · 21st March 2021, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Update on this. Something was telling me the problem cannot be just the rear brakes, as the rear wheels do move freely, O/S a bit stiff but it wouldn't be stopping the car from driving freely, but the burning smell obviously says the shoes are binding.

Light bulb moment

why don't I check the front brakes I say to myself... and guest what! The blooming front brakes are seized solid, can't turn the wheels freely at all, N/S only just moves.

The poor girl has been neglected, but now she is in good hands and will get the love she needs. Not until I can free off 1x wheel bolt that is also seized solid, what the f is holding it on, not even my wheel nut remover will remove it.

Wes. You have my total sympathy now that you've found you have an additional nut problem.

However this time it will be safe to use a blow torch to remove it.---

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Kerthan23 Avid contributor Rover 75 connie diesel, 1982 xr3 & 1974 gt Capri Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Kingdom o Fife.... Posts: 146 Thanks: 51 Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts	Capri brakes Did you feel brake judder at all? They are very prone for brake shoe levers seizing, had the same myself on every Capri I've owned, you need to pin point where hissing is coming from as there should be 2 rubber hoses, 1 from servo to pipe that goes around bulkhead then from that pipe to manifold, also rubber gromit on servo where white or black plastic fitting is __________________ Rover mg mad

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COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	Sometimes when the flexy hoses at the wheels age they swell up on the INSIDE. Pedal pressure pushes the fluid past the block but it doesn't return on its own. So the brake shoes can touch and bind in the drums. As for the hiss. Check its location with a piece rubber flexible hose. Don't put the listening end of the hose too close to your ear just in case it tries to remove your brain.--

21st March 2021, 19:04	#39
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	Update on this. Something was telling me the problem cannot be just the rear brakes, as the rear wheels do move freely, O/S a bit stiff but it wouldn't be stopping the car from driving freely, but the burning smell obviously says the shoes are binding. Light bulb moment why don't I check the front brakes I say to myself... and guest what! The blooming front brakes are seized solid, can't turn the wheels freely at all, N/S only just moves. The poor girl has been neglected, but now she is in good hands and will get the love she needs. Not until I can free off 1x wheel bolt that is also seized solid, what the f is holding it on, not even my wheel nut remover will remove it.