190 V6 just died, electrics, but no crank.

[vitesse]

Originally Posted by Mgaz

Also,... could a broken cam belt cause the engine to spin freely and not fire?

Think he said the belts were fine, but a belt that has jumped would cause the engine to spin freely and not fire. Experienced it, very fast rotation due to compression loss.

Regards

[trikey]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

Spinning and cranking means the same thing.---

Nope, spinning is when something like a belt has snapped or the end has sheared off the cam.

[BigRuss]

How's the oil level? Lack of oil pressure will cause lack of compression due to lack of oil in the tappets.

The engine will spin over more quickly than normal without firing

Russ

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by trikey

Nope, spinning is when something like a belt has snapped or the end has sheared off the cam.

In Norfolk maybe but not down here in Devon.-------------

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire GOC

1.8/v6 Petrol ECU's are waterproofed - you would only normally get a drowned ECU on a diesel.

Thanks, useful to know

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by trikey

Nope, spinning is when something like a belt has snapped or the end has sheared off the cam.

Agree, but I may have worded incorrectly, it happens

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by BigRuss

How's the oil level? Lack of oil pressure will cause lack of compression due to lack of oil in the tappets.

The engine will spin over more quickly than normal without firing

Russ

I believe oil is fine but will check anyway, thanks for advice

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire GOC

Check and clean the spade terminal on the starter motor if corroded it can cause non starting with lights on.

Didn't think of that possibility, thanks, will check

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Dunno about anybody else but I'm getting confused by the use of "cranking" and "spinning" Cranking is the normal turning over of the engine just before it fires, spinning indicates (to me) the engine turning over much faster than normal due to a lack of resistance.

Can you clarify what's happening when you try to start the car?

Re the video, you'd need to upload it to Youtube then post a link to it here.

Sorry, worded incorrectly I assume, as stated in a post below, I believe that the starter is not firing the engine from what I have read, I must admit to not knowing.much about the kv6 engine, I am trying to learn, thanks 😀

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I must admit to not knowing much about the kv6 engine, I am trying to learn, thanks

Hello Terry and to the club. Thank you for your honesty and willingness to solve the problem with your engine. We are here to try to help you but unfortunately this thread appears to have become rather ... wayward.

Originally Posted by 350zwelgje

Clip needed on the fuel filter? If separated it won't run.

As Rob says, the most likely reason for a KV6 to stop and refuse to restart is loosening of the fuel filter canister. All that's needed is to lift it up and try to tighten the two sections. Do not under any circumstances take the canister to pieces. If the tightening results in success, buy the clip and fit it. Of course your filter may already have one.

Originally Posted by Beastie

I believe oil is fine but will check anyway ...

Never rely on beliefs where fault diagnosis is concerned Terry! To check the oil level on a KV6 the engine must be at normal operating temperature. Stop the engine, withdraw the dipstick and wait five minutes. Re-insert the dipstick slowly and push it fully home then take the reading. You'll probably need several attempts. Placing the graticule on a piece of kitchen towel helps.

Originally Posted by Beastie

... cam belt appears to be fine ...

The cambelts aren't visible without dismantling. How have you reached this conclusion?

Simon