Just curious.

[jackatesme]

If i was a young lad started off in employment and do not have a bank account would i be able to demand being paid in cash. ( human rights ).

[Leyland Worldmaster]

Originally Posted by jackatesme

If i was a young lad started off in employment and do not have a bank account would i be able to demand being paid in cash. ( human rights ).

I doubt it. Most companies are simply not geared up for that. Increased danger to them RE: wage snatches.

[Tim]

I think if you were demanding anything as a young lad in a new job you would not get past your probation period

[jackatesme]

The point i am getting at,is if i was young lad who really didn't want to work could i use this as an excuse to turn down employment,then still claim benefits as it's my human right.

[Groundhog]

But surely if you are claiming benefits, it will be paid into a bank account So what's the difference. If you dont want to work why should the tax payer look after you

[another_clean_sheet]

Originally Posted by jackatesme

The point i am getting at,is if i was young lad who really didn't want to work could i use this as an excuse to turn down employment,then still claim benefits as it's my human right.

You will find that your benefits will be restricted as you have deliberately made yourself unemployable.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by jackatesme

The point i am getting at,is if i was young lad who really didn't want to work could i use this as an excuse to turn down employment,then still claim benefits as it's my human right.

It can be done -

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/paying-e...-take-home-pay

but employers do not like it for employees - for exactly the reasons mentioned above - as soon as you start having large amounts of cash on the premises then the employees are vulnerable to a wages snatch and the employers insurance bill will go through the roof

So most employees have "Conditions of Employment" and these would set out how and when wages/salary are paid. As I understand it the employer dictates how it pays people - if someone demands a payment method outside of the employers normal processes - then I believe the benefits people would NOT see this as a valid reason to give up the job.

The other danger is someone not declaring the money earned and still claiming benefits. The employer would be seen to be part of the scam if this were done - so even where you could get an employer to pay you in cash - they will be reporting this - so a Tax and NIC demand would be coming your way.

Plus - if you are paid with no NIC deductions - you could well be rendering yourself ineligible for some if not all benefits you think you should be due.

[jackatesme]

I want to make it clear i am not a young lad looking to dodge working,i am 71yr old pensioner. It is just a hyperthetical question.

[MSS]

The Human Rights Act does not mean that individuals can demand to do whatever they wish. It has specific articles defining the rights covered by the act. I don't think being paid "cash in hand" is one of them!

As DD states, the offer of employment is usually accompanied by terms & conditions. This will include having a "bank account" of some sort if that is how the empoyer has chosen to pay its employees. I suspect an employee would have to demonstate that a particular term was unreasonable in order for it to justify his refusal to accept the offer of employment. In my miew this is unlikely to be successful as it is a method of payment that is widely used and considered resonable.

I am curious as to why a member wuld be curious about such an obscure "hypothetical scenario".

[jackatesme]

Originally Posted by mss

The Human Rights Act does not mean that individuals can demand to do whatever they wish. It has specific articles defining the rights covered by the act. I don't think being paid "cash in hand" is one of them!

As DD states, the offer of employment is usually accompanied by terms & conditions. This will include having a "bank account" of some sort if that is how the empoyer has chosen to pay its employees. I suspect an employee would have to demonstate that a particular term was unreasonable in order for it to justify his refusal to accept the offer of employment. In my miew this is unlikely to be successful as it is a method of payment that is widely used and considered resonable.

I am curious as to why a member wuld be curious about such an obscure "hypothetical scenario".

It's because i can remember working all week then collecting my pay on Friday. There was no middle man (banks), who as soon as you open an account offer you a service that you don't really need and charge you for it,then inudinuate you offers of money loans.