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Old 6th June 2020, 14:52   #201
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Never read such a load of rubbish, the 75 is one of the best cars I’ve owned and I’ve no plans to get rid of my Y reg Tourer and it’s less trouble than many newer cars
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Old 6th June 2020, 18:12   #202
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I covered over 200,000 miles across my various 75s and ZTs without major issue - the usual stuff needed to be done, but never anything too extreme.

Companies such as ourselves and many others are also pioneering reproduction of hard-to-find parts and having huge quantities made to carry us far into the future; it's clear the 75 and ZT have a long-term future on our roads by the efforts we've seen put in by other small and large businesses in terms of keeping spares we all need daily in production.

We have plans for up to 20 years into the future re: availability of spares and money being put into reproduction bits and pieces - as the years go on, it'll be like the SD1 / Marina etc are now with pretty much every nut and bolt available too.

No need for anyone to worry about these being unviable as daily drivers, both now and in the future.
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Old 6th June 2020, 18:45   #203
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I compared him with Meerkat very early on in the thread.
Yes I think he bought a bad neglected one or simply did not check it.
It’s just too easy to pick a fight with a keyboard and make yourself look high and mighty. The fact that he has been back but not posted anything may just prove a point.
Perhaps, and let’s hope he now has a repaired and reliable 75.

I think back to the Moonstone tourer I saw in Cheltenham a couple of years ago and the chat I had with the owner in Sainsbury’s car park. Eternally grateful of the information I gave him to look up this site. On the 2 occasions I’ve seen him again, the car is an absolute shed. Bought cheap and run a shoe string. I wonder if he will find this site one day and let us know how awful the 75 tourer really is?
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Old 7th June 2020, 00:22   #204
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I only get some water at times into the tyre well, car drives like a dream, I have replaced the front and rear suspension, most sensors on the engine, new under bonnet fuel pump, new evaporator & radiator, discs brakes backing plates and pads all round, mist brake pipes renewed, rear bearings renewed in the near future am replacing front bearings and new hubs, Lots of other work carried out.
Many off the parts I replaced had not failed, but I believe in preventative maintainence, plus doing it all while I have the money, car is 17 years old on 31/12/ this year.
Looked after these cars are a joy to drive.
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Old 7th June 2020, 02:42   #205
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Companies such as ourselves and many others are also pioneering reproduction of hard-to-find parts and having huge quantities made to carry us far into the future; it's clear the 75 and ZT have a long-term future on our roads by the efforts we've seen put in by other small and large businesses in terms of keeping spares we all need daily in production.
Scott, by the way, what is actually your approach to find a hopefully final solution for the KV6 variable intake manifold with its well-known problems? New ones are no longer produced by Mann & Hummel, used ones in a fairly reliable state are increasingly hard to find and therefore increasingly expensive and until now there is no alternative in sight. From my point of view one of the most urging worries with the KV6...
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Old 8th June 2020, 01:42   #206
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Our cars are perfect as a daily.

The issue comes with "oh I will do it later" jobs that build up and then you have a car that's functionally unusable.

Any car over 15 years old as a daily is going to have issues unless it's very low miles.

I've made choice to use my white 2001 75 diesel manual as my daily now going forward.

Personally I'm enjoying every second of it now but I did spend several hundred redoing entire front end at Christmas as the car is 20 years old.
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Old 8th June 2020, 10:57   #207
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Our cars are perfect as a daily.

The issue comes with "oh I will do it later" jobs that build up and then you have a car that's functionally unusable.

Any car over 15 years old as a daily is going to have issues unless it's very low miles.

I've made choice to use my white 2001 75 diesel manual as my daily now going forward.

Personally I'm enjoying every second of it now but I did spend several hundred redoing entire front end at Christmas as the car is 20 years old.

I agree, i washed and waxed the 18 year old R75 yesterday and it was parked next to my Jaguar which is new, and the condition of the Rover 75 shined up to the new one... not much difference in condition a testament to the Rover 75 coachwork, magnificent ...... i still jump in the Rover 75 as the first car!! i know hard to believe with 327000 miles on it compared to a practically brand new Jaguar, but i do its like wearing my old slippers im my comfortable with that car, no modern interferences you get in todays car, like satnav, telephone comms, green driving info pad, air pressure in tyres are low, seat belt bleep light blah blah blah... no thanks JUST DRIVE THE FRIGGIN THING!!
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Old 8th June 2020, 11:28   #208
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I think the 75/ZTs are quite useable as an everyday car, and will give long reliable service if well maintained, and if you pay attention to a few weak points (plenums on diesels etc.). But, I think you do need to be a bit 'hands-on' with the spanners to maintain these vehicles in good condition, otherwise you will get ripped off by garages that are often quite ignorant of these cars and their foibles.

I am probably going to move my 75 on shortly to make way for another project. Mainly for three reasons:

- It is hardly used at the moment, not just due to lock-down, but because I have finished my MGB GT project and I enjoy using that whenever I can find the excuse !
- I am getting fed up replacing poor quality after market parts on almost an annual basis - drop links, lower front arms etc. We have terrible roads around here and these items just do not last, wherever you buy them from.
- I do not enjoy working on the 75 as much as working on older classics (MGBs etc.) - the access is more difficult for most jobs and the engineering is not so robust as back in the 1960's - more special tools are needed. I don't think I could face doing another clutch or front lower arms on a 75 - I would rather work on a classic MG.

Just my idle thoughts on a Monday morning.

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I think the 75/ZTs are quite useable as an everyday car, and will give long reliable service if well maintained, and if you pay attention to a few weak points (plenums on diesels etc.). But, I think you do need to be a bit 'hands-on' with the spanners to maintain these vehicles in good condition, otherwise you will get ripped off by garages that are often quite ignorant of these cars and their foibles.

I am probably going to move my 75 on shortly to make way for another project. Mainly for three reasons:

- It is hardly used at the moment, not just due to lock-down, but because I have finished my MGB GT project and I enjoy using that whenever I can find the excuse !
- I am getting fed up replacing poor quality after market parts on almost an annual basis - drop links, lower front arms etc. We have terrible roads around here and these items just do not last, wherever you buy them from.
- I do not enjoy working on the 75 as much as working on older classics (MGBs etc.) - the access is more difficult for most jobs and the engineering is not so robust as back in the 1960's - more special tools are needed. I don't think I could face doing another clutch or front lower arms on a 75 - I would rather work on a classic MG.

Just my idle thoughts on a Monday morning.

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You make some good points. Also rot due to age is a factor. A lot of cars from the 60’s have now had some serious restoration to mitigate the tin worm. The 75 and ZT whilst holding up well, have some poor examples which make them uneconomical to repair. I’ve just scrapped one that was terminal. There are always going to be poor ones but their numbers are slowly growing. I decided that my MG TF would be my final “older” car. From now on it’s modern bland or a very well restored classic.
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Old 8th June 2020, 13:01   #210
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You make some good points. Also rot due to age is a factor. A lot of cars from the 60’s have now had some serious restoration to mitigate the tin worm. The 75 and ZT whilst holding up well, have some poor examples which make them uneconomical to repair. I’ve just scrapped one that was terminal. There are always going to be poor ones but their numbers are slowly growing. I decided that my MG TF would be my final “older” car. From now on it’s modern bland or a very well restored classic.
Our cars are moving into that period where those of the 60s were thinned out, with remaining becoming restored and classic. Those scrapped siblings of those classics we see now, would have been scrapped because of ignorance, or neglect that allowed rust or mechanical failures to be an issue.

Our cars, along with other 'modern cars' destined to become classic (from the late 90s on), no longer are scrapped because of rust (visible at least), or to a lesser extent of mechanical failure but from electronic failure. The cost of replacement sensors and lack of knowledge/ability to repair said components being the deciding factors - you cannot just swap out an ECU from one in a scrapyard.

The other 'thing' that wasnt around 25 years ago, removing most of the other hindrance that caused cars to fall into disrepair - the internet. With the internet and multitude of magazines available, that almost eliminates the issue of ignorance.

The internet however brings forward new reasons to scrap or get rid of cars. Status, fashion and being influenced by advertising and others. Laziness and an expected instant gratification (entitlement) means that 'someone else can do it', therefore cars have become disposable (as most everything else we have). When was the last time you had a television repaired? Replace and move on ..... cars are now the same - because that knowledge is neither available nor affordable to utilise.

I am quite happy to do the work myself, I always wanted to, but never had the opportunity, so now I can challenge myself and hopefully get that satisfaction of seeing something work that previously was dead. But that is my attitude whilst I am able.
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