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Yorkshire GOC · 14th August 2020, 21:31

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Originally Posted by steady eddie

Well a very sad day for me today I have just lost my duotone tourer. I put four new tyres on her today had the tracking done, gave her a service ready to leave for Glen Nevis at 4 am tomorrow, she repaid me by going up in flames. She is a total loss I wonder if the insurance company will insult me with their settlement. The fire seems to have started under the dash on the drivers side.

You must be gutted - so sorry to hear -and a duotone as well.

steady eddie · 14th August 2020, 21:49

The car was parked on the road everything was switched off only been parked there about 30 minutes. We had drained the oil on the son's civic but could not get the filter housing undone. He was going to take my car to get a tool from euro car parts, he said something weird is going on with your car the lights and hazards are on I knew straight away it was on fire while he called the fire brigade I grabbed a fire extinguisher but it was too late it was well a blase. We have borrowed the daughters jazz to drive to Scotland as it was to late to get a courtesy car from the insurance company.

The Rovering Member · 14th August 2020, 22:18

That's a real blow to you but cars can be replaced. At least it was parked & nobody was inside.

Arctic · 15th August 2020, 00:43

LSM for sure must have got wet then shorted out, only good grace you were not driving at the time, the LSM is worth checking at least once a month for water damage and any build up of dust etc.

As above remove the self taper and replace with plastic scrivets you can rip out.

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bendrick · 15th August 2020, 10:57

News to me this one, sorry to hear about such an unfortunate incident just out of the blue like that.

First mention I've ever heard of this potential fire hazard despite being on this forum for 9 or so years. It has however prompted me to suss out and go and get a fire extinguisher for the car from Screwfix on Monday. something that I have thought about getting before but never got round to it. In fact I'm getting two, one for the house which won't do any harm either.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/firechief...sher-1kg/5534h

Where do you get those scrivets in your pictures from Steve?

trikey · 15th August 2020, 11:06

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Originally Posted by bendrick

News to me this one, sorry to hear about such an unfortunate incident just out of the blue like that.

First mention I've ever heard of this potential fire hazard despite being on this forum for 9 or so years. It has however prompted me to suss out and go and get a fire extinguisher for the car from Screwfix on Monday. something that I have thought about getting before but never got round to it. In fact I'm getting two, one for the house which won't do any harm either.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/firechief...sher-1kg/5534h

Where do you get those scrivets in your pictures from Steve?

The scrivets are the same ones used to hold the scuttle panel to the plenum.

simondhopkins · 15th August 2020, 17:01

Flippin heck, I never knew this about the LSM.

I wonder if getting it covered in conformal coating will stop this happening.

Hope you get another 75 and gutted it was as duotone too.

Jim Jamieson · 15th August 2020, 18:10

If it’s any consolation I hope you enjoy your visit to Glen Nevis, it’s beautiful up there and especially with this nice warm weather.

Don’t forget to visit Neptune’s Staircase to the north of Fort William. It’s a series of locks taking the boats up from sea level up into the Caledonian Canal and onwards to Loch Ness.

Sonic ZS · 15th August 2020, 19:28

If it's water that causes this problem, does anyone know how it gets into the LSM ? After all, it's very well buried into the dash.

Or do we have any evidence that it could be dust that ignites and starts the fire ??

BRG75 · 15th August 2020, 20:08

Like several others, this has come as a complete shock to me.
My sympathies for your loss, and again as others have said, you are safe, and a car can be replaced.

If anything is to be gained out of this, perhaps a discussion on the LSM (light switch module) and can it's supply be individually fused down, probably not.

The only other instance of a 75 catching light, that I've read about, involved somebody who suspected the ballast (resistor?) on some sort of High Powered Lights.

If there is a connection here (no pun intended, far too disturbing) might an isolator that you can switch off be a solution. I'm thinking of a pin that could be pulled out, to break the supply; as and when you take out the ignition key.

You would lose your parking lights, but maybe save your car.

Oh for the old instrumentation, an ammeter, water temp. (that's not programmed to deceive) and oil pressure gauge.
The P4 oil pressure gauge doubled up as an oil level gauge, at the push of a button.

Regards

Mike

14th August 2020, 22:18	#13
The Rovering Member I really should get out more....... Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: London Posts: 2,953 Thanks: 263 Thanked 538 Times in 431 Posts	That's a real blow to you but cars can be replaced. At least it was parked & nobody was inside. __________________ Reducing the size of my Rover fleet by adding a 75 to it.

15th August 2020, 00:43	#14
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,709 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	LSM for sure must have got wet then shorted out, only good grace you were not driving at the time, the LSM is worth checking at least once a month for water damage and any build up of dust etc. As above remove the self taper and replace with plastic scrivets you can rip out. 1 2 3 4 I have an how to on this which i have not posted yet __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

15th August 2020, 19:28	#19
Sonic ZS Posted a thing or two 75 Conn CDT Tourer, 75 Conn SE V6, 75 Conn V6, 75 Conn CDTi Tourer, ZS 180 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Devon Posts: 1,986 Thanks: 1,287 Thanked 963 Times in 534 Posts	If it's water that causes this problem, does anyone know how it gets into the LSM ? After all, it's very well buried into the dash. Or do we have any evidence that it could be dust that ignites and starts the fire ?? __________________

15th August 2020, 20:08	#20
BRG75 Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sevenoaks Posts: 975 Thanks: 670 Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts	Like several others, this has come as a complete shock to me. My sympathies for your loss, and again as others have said, you are safe, and a car can be replaced. If anything is to be gained out of this, perhaps a discussion on the LSM (light switch module) and can it's supply be individually fused down, probably not. The only other instance of a 75 catching light, that I've read about, involved somebody who suspected the ballast (resistor?) on some sort of High Powered Lights. If there is a connection here (no pun intended, far too disturbing) might an isolator that you can switch off be a solution. I'm thinking of a pin that could be pulled out, to break the supply; as and when you take out the ignition key. You would lose your parking lights, but maybe save your car. Oh for the old instrumentation, an ammeter, water temp. (that's not programmed to deceive) and oil pressure gauge. The P4 oil pressure gauge doubled up as an oil level gauge, at the push of a button. Regards Mike __________________ Presently 2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold 2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold Previously 2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE, 2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car) 1997 420 (Company Car) 1996 216 cabriolet, 198? 213 VDP 1986 SD1 V8 VDP, 1968 2000TC, 1966 2000. Last edited by BRG75; 15th August 2020 at 20:25..

14th August 2020, 21:49	#12
steady eddie Loves to post rover 75 tourer / bmw e90 320d Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Swindon Posts: 255 Thanks: 256 Thanked 48 Times in 24 Posts	The car was parked on the road everything was switched off only been parked there about 30 minutes. We had drained the oil on the son's civic but could not get the filter housing undone. He was going to take my car to get a tool from euro car parts, he said something weird is going on with your car the lights and hazards are on I knew straight away it was on fire while he called the fire brigade I grabbed a fire extinguisher but it was too late it was well a blase. We have borrowed the daughters jazz to drive to Scotland as it was to late to get a courtesy car from the insurance company.

15th August 2020, 10:57	#15
bendrick Gets stuck in Ex CDT Auto Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Barry Posts: 655 Thanks: 76 Thanked 266 Times in 155 Posts	News to me this one, sorry to hear about such an unfortunate incident just out of the blue like that. First mention I've ever heard of this potential fire hazard despite being on this forum for 9 or so years. It has however prompted me to suss out and go and get a fire extinguisher for the car from Screwfix on Monday. something that I have thought about getting before but never got round to it. In fact I'm getting two, one for the house which won't do any harm either. https://www.screwfix.com/p/firechief...sher-1kg/5534h Where do you get those scrivets in your pictures from Steve?

15th August 2020, 17:01	#17
simondhopkins Loves to post Vauxhall Vectra C Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Burnley Posts: 445 Thanks: 179 Thanked 88 Times in 62 Posts	Flippin heck, I never knew this about the LSM. I wonder if getting it covered in conformal coating will stop this happening. Hope you get another 75 and gutted it was as duotone too.

15th August 2020, 18:10	#18
Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	If it’s any consolation I hope you enjoy your visit to Glen Nevis, it’s beautiful up there and especially with this nice warm weather. Don’t forget to visit Neptune’s Staircase to the north of Fort William. It’s a series of locks taking the boats up from sea level up into the Caledonian Canal and onwards to Loch Ness.