Would you have bought a R75 if the Facelift had come first? - Page 4

steve-45 · 17th February 2021, 20:18

Sounds like us facelift 75 owners will soon be chucked out of the club .....

trikey · 17th February 2021, 20:47

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Originally Posted by steve-45

Sounds like us facelift 75 owners will soon be chucked out of the club .....

Nah, we need you lot to park next to us at shows so that our MK1's look better

LeRich · 17th February 2021, 21:26

There is greater cohesion to the mk1 but it lacks the modernity of the mk2. While the facelift wasn't as extensive as it needed to be, the mk2 looks reasonably fresh even now whereas the mk1s look dated. The facelift was particularly successful in altering the visual proportions back end to reduce the taper of the 'boat tail' and make it squarer.

The ultimate 75 would have the build quality of the earlier cars combined with the sharper chassis and styling elements of the later cars.

Mike Trident · 17th February 2021, 21:53

I own a facelift model, I'm not particularly bothered about the outside looks to be honest. It's the inside I see the most.

If I was pushed, I would say i probably prefer the front end of a mk1, something not quite right with the facelift front end, can't really put my finger on what it is. The ridiculous gap at the front of the bonnet doesn't help.

However, if I ever decide to change the front end it would be for the best front end of them all, the mk1 MG ZT! That's my favourite front.

steve-45 · 17th February 2021, 22:14

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Originally Posted by trikey

Nah, we need you lot to park next to us at shows so that our MK1's look better

You can really go off some people !

Nick91 · 17th February 2021, 22:33

I'm quite partial to the facelift since I own one. The MK1 looks like a lovely classic, whereas the facelift looks relatively modern. Each has their place. I think the worst thing about the facelift is project drive, if the powers that be had ditched this idea like the hot NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- it was, then the facelift, dare I say, would have been the better choice.

I also think the facelift works better on the ZT, whereas the 75 is more suited to the MK1.

wraymond · 18th February 2021, 05:54

To answer the OP question, apparently not.

After 40 years of P6's, my first 75 was a facelift and very happy I was with it. Then I saw a Mk 1 that lived just 250 yards from my place. It used to be parked in the driveway and I'd passed it every day for eight years and couldn't resist an admiring glance.

One day it was parked in the road and in its place in the driveway was a new BMW. A note dropped through the letterbox asking if it was to be sold produced an email reply of Yes.

It would be fair to say my driving is at best sedate and at my time of life I'm not in a hurry to be anywhere else so am unaware of any performance differences. Nowadays, the later model seems just a bit, well, brash, the influence of the new owners becoming just that bit more obvious. Each to his own, but I'm quite happy. Certainly the looks from other drivers in the car parks are encouraging.

Mason6 · 18th February 2021, 08:24

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Originally Posted by LeRich

There is greater cohesion to the mk1 but it lacks the modernity of the mk2. While the facelift wasn't as extensive as it needed to be, the mk2 looks reasonably fresh even now whereas the mk1s look dated. The facelift was particularly successful in altering the visual proportions back end to reduce the taper of the 'boat tail' and make it squarer.

The ultimate 75 would have the build quality of the earlier cars combined with the sharper chassis and styling elements of the later cars.

What he said

Bob Williams · 18th February 2021, 08:33

I have had three 75's: a 1999 2-0 V6 Club SE saloon, a 2002 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer and a 2004 Contemporary SE CDTi Tourer. The first two were bought new and the last had 6,000 miles and I use it daily (now 260,000 miles). I have been happy with the quality of them all. The seats on the first two (one fabric and one leather) look much nicer and I believe are better quality but the Contemporary seats are more comfortable for driving although the driver's seat is now sagging.
I agree the Mk 1 looks better at the front as the grille looks like a grille rather than an add-on accessory but I prefer the look of the back of the Tourer as a Mk 2. I also think the Mk 2 is ageing better.

VVC-Geeza · 18th February 2021, 09:22

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Originally Posted by suzublu

When I see a facelift, I see a BMW

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Agree Ronnie,I often have to look twice when I see one or the other approaching.

17th February 2021, 21:26	#33
LeRich Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Cont SE 1.8T Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,082 Thanks: 215 Thanked 232 Times in 178 Posts	There is greater cohesion to the mk1 but it lacks the modernity of the mk2. While the facelift wasn't as extensive as it needed to be, the mk2 looks reasonably fresh even now whereas the mk1s look dated. The facelift was particularly successful in altering the visual proportions back end to reduce the taper of the 'boat tail' and make it squarer. The ultimate 75 would have the build quality of the earlier cars combined with the sharper chassis and styling elements of the later cars. __________________ Rover 75 1.8T Contemporary SE Auto Starlight Silver MBB

17th February 2021, 21:53	#34
Mike Trident Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Saloon & Citroen C1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Oakenshaw, Near Bradford Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 385 Thanked 552 Times in 328 Posts	I own a facelift model, I'm not particularly bothered about the outside looks to be honest. It's the inside I see the most. If I was pushed, I would say i probably prefer the front end of a mk1, something not quite right with the facelift front end, can't really put my finger on what it is. The ridiculous gap at the front of the bonnet doesn't help. However, if I ever decide to change the front end it would be for the best front end of them all, the mk1 MG ZT! That's my favourite front. __________________ Rover 75 2.0 CDTi (131Ps) Conn SE Saloon. (Manual) 160 Remap, cruise control, electric window blind, temp gauge, Real walnut / ZT interior, FBH with GSM control. BORN Tuesday, 5th October 2004 @ 12:35:52 This vehicle was the 104,679th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 3,318th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 4,744 This vehicle was the 12,440th 75 in Starlight Silver (code: MBB) to be made out of 14,280 Starlight Silver 75s

17th February 2021, 22:33	#36
Nick91 Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 35 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	I'm quite partial to the facelift since I own one. The MK1 looks like a lovely classic, whereas the facelift looks relatively modern. Each has their place. I think the worst thing about the facelift is project drive, if the powers that be had ditched this idea like the hot NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- it was, then the facelift, dare I say, would have been the better choice. I also think the facelift works better on the ZT, whereas the 75 is more suited to the MK1. Last edited by Nick91; 17th February 2021 at 22:34.. Reason: The naughty word began with T and would leave someone's backside, hardly naughty :D

18th February 2021, 05:54	#37
wraymond I will find or make a way 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,184 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	To answer the OP question, apparently not. After 40 years of P6's, my first 75 was a facelift and very happy I was with it. Then I saw a Mk 1 that lived just 250 yards from my place. It used to be parked in the driveway and I'd passed it every day for eight years and couldn't resist an admiring glance. One day it was parked in the road and in its place in the driveway was a new BMW. A note dropped through the letterbox asking if it was to be sold produced an email reply of Yes. It would be fair to say my driving is at best sedate and at my time of life I'm not in a hurry to be anywhere else so am unaware of any performance differences. Nowadays, the later model seems just a bit, well, brash, the influence of the new owners becoming just that bit more obvious. Each to his own, but I'm quite happy. Certainly the looks from other drivers in the car parks are encouraging. __________________ member no. 235 Last edited by wraymond; 18th February 2021 at 06:08..

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17th February 2021, 20:18	#31
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	Sounds like us facelift 75 owners will soon be chucked out of the club .....

18th February 2021, 08:33	#39
Bob Williams Loves to post MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 419 Thanks: 5 Thanked 109 Times in 57 Posts	I have had three 75's: a 1999 2-0 V6 Club SE saloon, a 2002 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer and a 2004 Contemporary SE CDTi Tourer. The first two were bought new and the last had 6,000 miles and I use it daily (now 260,000 miles). I have been happy with the quality of them all. The seats on the first two (one fabric and one leather) look much nicer and I believe are better quality but the Contemporary seats are more comfortable for driving although the driver's seat is now sagging. I agree the Mk 1 looks better at the front as the grille looks like a grille rather than an add-on accessory but I prefer the look of the back of the Tourer as a Mk 2. I also think the Mk 2 is ageing better.