MG Motors

[Roverama]

Apologies to all as I'm sure this is covering old ground again, but I can't really see why they haven't re launched the ZT, or Z7 as they prefer it, here in the UK and europe.
This was a flagship model in the MG Rover range, and Saic - Nanjing are already building the car in China.
Surely, even an re bodied version could be developed in a short space of time, filling what seems to be a gap in their range.
As good as their new cars may or may not be, there is nothing yet that would be likely to get me out of my ZT !

[e668ecp]

They (SAIC) don't want to be associated with what was MG Rover despite the MG 6 having underpinnings from it like the front subframe and despite the fact that the MG ZT/Rover 75 is far superior car IMHO to the 6

[Roverama]

Originally Posted by e668ecp

They (SAIC) don't want to be associated with what was MG Rover despite the MG 6 having underpinnings from it like the front subframe and despite the fact that the MG ZT/Rover 75 is far superior car IMHO to the 6

Yes, I hear what you say, and up to a point I can see their logic.
But it didn't apply with the TF did it !
Further more, when I saw the MG6 being displayed in our local shopping centre, most of the interested punters already knew that the car had the K series engine. The salesman was at pains to point out to them that this was indeed so, but a heavily re worked version.
Surely if SAIC are prepared to overcome that millstone then everything else is possible.
If you are right about them, then it seems they would rather offer nothing in what was quite a major segment, que sera !

[e668ecp]

The N-series is just the Euro 4 version of the K-series as I understand it and was developed by MG Rover not NAC or SAIC. Lets hope the problems are resolved with the HGF but I have my doubts!

The TF was re-launched by NAC not SAIC to be fair

[Banjo]

I can't help thinking thatif SAIC had bought MG Rover in the first place they may not have disassembled Longbridge and dragged the plant off to China. They had alraedy started tooling up for their versions using the designs so thoughtfully provided to the by Phoenix. If the planthad been left intact, with Powertrain, this new car could have been launched, say, 3 years ago. By now they could have had a range of cars - including a revised or new ZT. NIAC on the other hand needed all the plant - and had to build a factory in Nanjing to put it in.

[Borg Warner]

Have sat in one today and whilst the inside looks, shall we say "Germanic" it does look good both inside and out, I thought it was an Insignia at first. (Not sure if that's a compiment though). The engine bay looked familiar; they've fixed the Tee piece.

As for warranties, how many people keep a car from new for life? Agreed the choice is limited from a trim/engine view point but from SAIC's perspective they are not going to invest what is really needed for the bigger choices in case it goes belly up. But then by not having the choices they run that exact risk.

I've got a test drive in April, even at this early stage if I was seriousley in the market for a new car this would be on my list.

[suffolk boy]

if that is correct the price 17k to 20k you have to be off your rocker.i would rather go for a second hand merc at half that price.

[topman]

Originally Posted by Roverama

Yes, I hear what you say, and up to a point I can see their logic.
But it didn't apply with the TF did it !
Further more, when I saw the MG6 being displayed in our local shopping centre, most of the interested punters already knew that the car had the K series engine. The salesman was at pains to point out to them that this was indeed so, but a heavily re worked version.
Surely if SAIC are prepared to overcome that millstone then everything else is possible.
If you are right about them, then it seems they would rather offer nothing in what was quite a major segment, que sera !

I think the TF was just a test run to see if everything was working. It was never going to be a long term run. Could you explain your last sentence? Which segment?

[martin green]

I must admit when i was at the MG live in 2010 I was disapointed in the MG6. The car could have been a Volkswagon or Vauxhall , nothing about it. When MG Rover were around old shapes or not, never a truer marketing statement than theirs which was

" A CLASS OF ITS OWN"

I drive down the M1 most days now and the MG Rovers are no more unless its a late registered one. I drive for many miles and all i see is German, German,German, German or I forgot to mention French also.No brit cars at and very few Jaguars /Landrovers. Minis etc.

I sit there a smile and think their goes another £1 billion on the defict to Blighty. The German powerhouse is just that, created by all the other european countries buying their cars and gizmo's we must be mad, to think what the British workers could make with £2.00 budget, class engineers.

Which brings me onto the next point, people keep saying its great to see Longbridge making Rovers/MG again but stop and think when MG Rover were going they sourced 80% British bits for the cars and built most of it at Longbridge.

I read the autocar article today and the new MG6 will have the front suspension/engine and exhaust pipe fitted only at Longbrdge. 83% made in CHINA. only 17% in Blighty.

Its not the same, when i opened the door the chinese writing is on the inside of the A frames instead of ENGLISH.. My heart sank Longbridge is British.

They may have the name but not the soul!!!!! These fantastic MG ROVER cars all 5 years of them was a great era of the die hard spirit of the British workers fighting to stay in business and no one give them a chance.

One **** government let them go and the foreigners jumped at the chance to grab the brand..we must be mad.mad i tell you. These MG Rovers i want to keep going as long as I can, because they are not replaceable just like some old jewels in the atic upstairs.

And as the years go on..we will look back at the LAST BRITISH OWNED CAR COMPANY AND SAY .......What pratts we have been.

Longbridge is what your driving not what your looking to aspire to from there now.

[thomas 75 connie]

Originally Posted by martin green

I must admit when i was at the MG live in 2010 I was disapointed in the MG6. The car could have been a Volkswagon or Vauxhall , nothing about it. When MG Rover were around old shapes or not, never a truer marketing statement than theirs which was

" A CLASS OF ITS OWN"

I drive down the M1 most days now and the MG Rovers are no more unless its a late registered one. I drive for many miles and all i see is German, German,German, German or I forgot to mention French also.No brit cars at and very few Jaguars /Landrovers. Minis etc.

I sit there a smile and think their goes another £1 billion on the defict to Blighty. The German powerhouse is just that, created by all the other european countries buying their cars and gizmo's we must be mad, to think what the
British workers could make with £2.00 budget, class engineers.

Which brings me onto the next point, people keep saying its great to see Longbridge making Rovers/MG again but stop and think when MG Rover were going they sourced 80% British bits for the cars and built most of it at Longbridge.

I read the autocar article today and the new MG6 will have the front suspension/engine and exhaust pipe fitted only at Longbrdge. 83% made in CHINA. only 17% in Blighty.

Its not the same, when i opened the door the chinese writing is on the inside of the A frames instead of ENGLISH.. My heart sank Longbridge is British.

They may have the name but not the soul!!!!! These fantastic MG ROVER cars all 5 years of them was a great era of the die hard spirit of the British workers fighting to stay in business and no one give them a chance.

One **** government let them go and the foreigners jumped at the chance to grab the brand..we must be mad.mad i tell you. These MG Rovers i want to keep going as long as I can, because they are not replaceable just like some old jewels in the atic upstairs.

And as the years go on..we will look back at the LAST BRITISH OWNED CAR COMPANY AND SAY .......What pratts we have been.

Longbridge is what your driving not what your looking to aspire to from there now.

Here here that bought a tear to my eye. I'm proud of what I drive and I don't care what people think