Info from non uk R75/MG ZT owners

DEVYL · 2nd April 2016, 18:13

Hello guys, i'm in need of some information about cars registration. I'm looking to buy a ZT 260 ( there are none in Romania ). The problem is that the tax for registering a ZT 260 in Romania is of around 8.700 euros. Even for a 2.5 V6 the tax is almost 4.000 euros. Is there a legal way in any country from Europe to buy the car from there and drive it on its original plates? I mean leave it registered in that country ( paying insurance and anything else is needed ). There is an option to register the car in Bulgaria but is only 80% legal and I don't want to get involved.
Thanks, Alex

Dragrad · 3rd April 2016, 01:51

Thread moved to a more appropriate forum. Re-direct left in old. This may be the better forum as threads get ‘lost’ very quickly in the General Forum.

We do have a lot of members from your country.... but after a quick search none with the ZT 260....

DEVYL · 3rd April 2016, 05:11

Thx for the re-direct; I haven't seen any Romanian user around here yet ( maybe they are not that active ). Of course there are no ZT 260's owners... i'm the only one crazy enough to buy one, it is very very expensive to own cars with big engines in Romania; thats why I need to find a way to drive it registered in another country. Beside the ZT 260, a LWB R75 it is an option 😊
I want to be in the position of having a unique car in my country so nobody can reply to me "i have the same car as you" 😎

DragonFly · 3rd April 2016, 14:51

Technically, under EU regulations, once a vehicle has been in a country for a certain length of time (I think 12 months if memory serves), OR, the vehicles owner becomes resident in that country, then the vehicle MUST be registered in that country.

At least, those are the rules.

How much notice the Romanian authorities would take of a UK registered vehicle I'm afraid I have no idea.

DEVYL · 3rd April 2016, 15:59

No such thing here. You can drive a car from any country if u have insurance and original documents translated. The problem is for the "scheme" to be legal in the country from which I'm buying the car

DragonFly · 4th April 2016, 10:47

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Originally Posted by DEVYL

No such thing here. You can drive a car from any country if u have insurance and original documents translated. The problem is for the "scheme" to be legal in the country from which I'm buying the car

I can't imagine that the DVLA (the UK vehicle registration people) will care very much once the car is out of the UK.

Jakg · 4th April 2016, 11:05

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Originally Posted by DragonFly

I can't imagine that the DVLA (the UK vehicle registration people) will care very much once the car is out of the UK.

Quite a few people do this both ways round, hoping that the police in their country will never bother to check a foreign vehicle.

There's even some UK cars running on fake polish plates just to avoid tax etc here.

Woof25 · 4th April 2016, 11:07

A LHD V8 given the low number of V8,s made would be incredibly rare or none existent, as to insurance I suspect most UK insurance companies would not consider a car domiciled outside UK permanently as complying with the conditions of insurance and would void the policy.
More likely to find a V6 2.5 and less complicated regarding road tax and insurance in your country

DEVYL · 4th April 2016, 16:24

@DragonFly & @Jakg - the problem is the following : if lets say I buy the car from dragonfly and keep it on uk plates, he will still be the owner of the car ( at least his name written on the car's documents ) , I will only have a bill and some paperwork where it says that I bought the car and have the legal rights. This mean I have to pay him insurance every year. The police here will check to have a valid insurance and the car not to be stolen or something like that.

@Woof - there are a couple of LHD MG ZT 260's for sale ( I don't want a R75 V8 because of the auto gearbox ). I already own a 2.5 v6 ( two actually ). I've also found a LWB 2.5 v6 LHD. Paying the registration tax in my country is out of the question for any of these cars. It is very expensive

DragonFly · 5th April 2016, 02:17

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Originally Posted by DEVYL

@DragonFly & @Jakg - the problem is the following : if lets say I buy the car from dragonfly and keep it on uk plates, he will still be the owner of the car ( at least his name written on the car's documents ) , I will only have a bill and some paperwork where it says that I bought the car and have the legal rights. This mean I have to pay him insurance every year. The police here will check to have a valid insurance and the car not to be stolen or something like that.

That's not quite how it would work I'm afraid. I (or anyone else with any rational thought) wouldn't be about to let you drive off into the sunset with a car that I'm still (on paper at least) legally responsible for.

If I were to have a V8 to sell you, after you'd prized it from over my dead body

, the log book would be filled in to say that I'd sold it, and you'd bought it, giving your Romanian address.

The DVLA would then amend the vehicle record to show that it had been exported.

You'd then need to insure it in Romania, which to be honest, would probably be the cheaper option for you anyway. There are plenty of insurance companies across mainland Europe that will insure UK registered vehicles. One of my neighbours spends about 7 months of the year in France these days and has his UK registered car and van insured on a French policy.

2nd April 2016, 18:13	#1
DEVYL Loves to post Rover 75 2.5 V6 Auto Connoiseur SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bucharest Posts: 332 Thanks: 23 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	Info from non uk R75/MG ZT owners Hello guys, i'm in need of some information about cars registration. I'm looking to buy a ZT 260 ( there are none in Romania ). The problem is that the tax for registering a ZT 260 in Romania is of around 8.700 euros. Even for a 2.5 V6 the tax is almost 4.000 euros. Is there a legal way in any country from Europe to buy the car from there and drive it on its original plates? I mean leave it registered in that country ( paying insurance and anything else is needed ). There is an option to register the car in Bulgaria but is only 80% legal and I don't want to get involved. Thanks, Alex __________________ The only reason I can't own a ZT 260 is the registration tax in Romania of over 12.000 euros. Looking for a LHD MG ZT 260 on UK plates!

3rd April 2016, 01:51	#2
Dragrad This is my second home *None DROWNED** Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cardigan Posts: 33,339 Thanks: 1,257 Thanked 1,664 Times in 1,081 Posts	Thread moved to a more appropriate forum. Re-direct left in old. This may be the better forum as threads get ‘lost’ very quickly in the General Forum. We do have a lot of members from your country.... but after a quick search none with the ZT 260.... __________________ Andrew Ich Dien Problem solving is... lateral thinking SEARCH FIRST ...ASK LATER...

3rd April 2016, 05:11	#3
DEVYL Loves to post Rover 75 2.5 V6 Auto Connoiseur SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bucharest Posts: 332 Thanks: 23 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	Thx for the re-direct; I haven't seen any Romanian user around here yet ( maybe they are not that active ). Of course there are no ZT 260's owners... i'm the only one crazy enough to buy one, it is very very expensive to own cars with big engines in Romania; thats why I need to find a way to drive it registered in another country. Beside the ZT 260, a LWB R75 it is an option 😊 I want to be in the position of having a unique car in my country so nobody can reply to me "i have the same car as you" 😎 __________________ The only reason I can't own a ZT 260 is the registration tax in Romania of over 12.000 euros. Looking for a LHD MG ZT 260 on UK plates! Last edited by DEVYL; 3rd April 2016 at 05:15..

3rd April 2016, 15:59	#5
DEVYL Loves to post Rover 75 2.5 V6 Auto Connoiseur SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bucharest Posts: 332 Thanks: 23 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	No such thing here. You can drive a car from any country if u have insurance and original documents translated. The problem is for the "scheme" to be legal in the country from which I'm buying the car __________________ The only reason I can't own a ZT 260 is the registration tax in Romania of over 12.000 euros. Looking for a LHD MG ZT 260 on UK plates!

4th April 2016, 16:24	#9
DEVYL Loves to post Rover 75 2.5 V6 Auto Connoiseur SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bucharest Posts: 332 Thanks: 23 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	@DragonFly & @Jakg - the problem is the following : if lets say I buy the car from dragonfly and keep it on uk plates, he will still be the owner of the car ( at least his name written on the car's documents ) , I will only have a bill and some paperwork where it says that I bought the car and have the legal rights. This mean I have to pay him insurance every year. The police here will check to have a valid insurance and the car not to be stolen or something like that. @Woof - there are a couple of LHD MG ZT 260's for sale ( I don't want a R75 V8 because of the auto gearbox ). I already own a 2.5 v6 ( two actually ). I've also found a LWB 2.5 v6 LHD. Paying the registration tax in my country is out of the question for any of these cars. It is very expensive __________________ The only reason I can't own a ZT 260 is the registration tax in Romania of over 12.000 euros. Looking for a LHD MG ZT 260 on UK plates!

3rd April 2016, 14:51	#4
DragonFly Loves to post Non 75 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Bristol Posts: 471 Thanks: 56 Thanked 189 Times in 93 Posts	Technically, under EU regulations, once a vehicle has been in a country for a certain length of time (I think 12 months if memory serves), OR, the vehicles owner becomes resident in that country, then the vehicle MUST be registered in that country. At least, those are the rules. How much notice the Romanian authorities would take of a UK registered vehicle I'm afraid I have no idea.

4th April 2016, 11:07	#8
Woof25 Passed Away Rover 75 Saloon CDti Se A Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North London Posts: 2,500 Thanks: 5 Thanked 401 Times in 287 Posts	A LHD V8 given the low number of V8,s made would be incredibly rare or none existent, as to insurance I suspect most UK insurance companies would not consider a car domiciled outside UK permanently as complying with the conditions of insurance and would void the policy. More likely to find a V6 2.5 and less complicated regarding road tax and insurance in your country