New MOT , not impressed

Malc. · 28th June 2018, 16:35

My wife's Mini required an MOT and I expected it to pass. However, it failed because I had overlooked that the driver side windscreen wiper missed a very small area in the middle.
But why it was considered to be a major fail, needing immediate attention, I just don't know! Rant over!

sworks · 28th June 2018, 19:00

The tester has no say how it’s worded, they tick the fail option and the system words it that way as major

Comfortably Numb · 29th June 2018, 00:06

Not like it was going to rain while you took it away and sorted it!

ceedy · 29th June 2018, 06:32

Not MG but Daughters Cmax , failed yesterday

On weak parking brake on one side . as a major !! (Found Adjuster spring not in proper place )

Small chip in the low centre of the windscreen as Minor ( now this has passed 2 previous MOTs before at the same garage ) and was on the car when we got it .

Advisories of a back tyre tread depth ? Check both and both over 3mm above the wear bars??

C

mh007 · 29th June 2018, 09:29

Whilst I agree that the tester has no control of how the failure point is catagorized, the item must be failed by the tester in the first place.

The wiper blade not clearing the screen is fair enough although in my opinion, a bit strong for it to be classed as a Major fail.
As far as I know, the limits for windscreen chips have not changed so why not put that as an advisory?
With regards to the tyres being 3mm above the tread wear marker, the tester shouldn't have even made any reference to them whatsoever!

Sorry for any confusion here.....I was responding to both posts (#1 & #4) about MOT failures.

ceedy · 29th June 2018, 12:00

The Tyres on the rear look like old fronts so have a scrubbed edge, but about 10mm wide and where there wasn't any tread in the first place?

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But sorted the Brake and got a PASS "with Defects" , don't like the way its worded makes the car look Dodgy ..

C.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mh007

Whilst I agree that the tester has no control of how the failure point is catagorized, the item must be failed by the tester in the first place.

The wiper blade not clearing the screen is fair enough although in my opinion, a bit strong for it to be classed as a Major fail.
As far as I know, the limits for windscreen chips have not changed so why not put that as an advisory?
With regards to the tyres being 3mm above the tread wear marker, the tester shouldn't have even made any reference to them whatsoever!

Jim Jamieson · 29th June 2018, 12:30

With the stricter regulations, not being able to see through the screen properly due to the bad blade would be considered a major fault.

Much as we don’t like it sometimes, the MOT system had to be given this neccesary overhaul.

mh007 · 29th June 2018, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceedy

The Tyres on the rear look like old fronts so have a scrubbed edge, but about 10mm wide and where there wasn't any tread in the first place?

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But sorted the Brake and got a PASS "with Defects" , don't like the way its worded makes the car look Dodgy ..

C.

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Bl***y ridiculous, a pass is a pass!

How can it be a pass "with defects"? If It's defective, It's a fail!!
Personally, I would query why the tester felt the need to do that & if your not happy, contact DVSA.

Whilst I agree that sometimes systems need an overhaul, that's no excuse for any MOT tester to go overboard blaming it on the new system.

ceedy · 29th June 2018, 13:55

emailed our experience to the Dvla , we will see if it gets any reponse

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Not looking forward to the old Dizzle's one later in the year !!!

Think our iD plate shows a 1 ?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mh007

Bl***y ridiculous, a pass is a pass!

How can it be a pass "with defects"? If It's defective, It's a fail!!
Personally, I would query why the tester felt the need to do that & if your not happy, contact DVSA.

Whilst I agree that sometimes systems need an overhaul, that's no excuse for any MOT tester to go overboard blaming it on the new system.

rustymotor · 29th June 2018, 14:04

Put my old Merc in this week:

Pass
Monitor and repair if necessary( advisories)
* (centre stop light not working)
* Brake pad(s) wearing thin Offside rear

*Brake pad(s) wearing thin Nearside rear

So happy days

28th June 2018, 19:00	#2
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29th June 2018, 09:29	#5
mh007 This is my second home MG ZT260 SE, MG ZT190+, MG ZTT 160, R75 Conn SE 2.0, R75 Conn SE 2.5 X 3, R75 Club SE 1.8, P5B Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Keynsham, Bristol Posts: 4,211 Thanks: 65 Thanked 635 Times in 499 Posts	Whilst I agree that the tester has no control of how the failure point is catagorized, the item must be failed by the tester in the first place. The wiper blade not clearing the screen is fair enough although in my opinion, a bit strong for it to be classed as a Major fail. As far as I know, the limits for windscreen chips have not changed so why not put that as an advisory? With regards to the tyres being 3mm above the tread wear marker, the tester shouldn't have even made any reference to them whatsoever! Sorry for any confusion here.....I was responding to both posts (#1 & #4) about MOT failures. Last edited by mh007; 29th June 2018 at 13:24..

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28th June 2018, 16:35	#1
Malc. Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE Royal Blue. Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pembroke Posts: 295 Thanks: 7 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	New MOT , not impressed My wife's Mini required an MOT and I expected it to pass. However, it failed because I had overlooked that the driver side windscreen wiper missed a very small area in the middle. But why it was considered to be a major fail, needing immediate attention, I just don't know! Rant over!

29th June 2018, 00:06	#3
Comfortably Numb Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Penrith Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 165 Thanked 303 Times in 241 Posts	Not like it was going to rain while you took it away and sorted it!

29th June 2018, 06:32	#4
ceedy This is my second home All Trophy Blue ,ZT260#50 , ZT CDTI Auto, ZR105+ and 1.8T Firefrost spoiling the Set . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nr Sherborne But in Somerset.. Posts: 6,074 Thanks: 916 Thanked 1,214 Times in 768 Posts	Not MG but Daughters Cmax , failed yesterday On weak parking brake on one side . as a major !! (Found Adjuster spring not in proper place ) Small chip in the low centre of the windscreen as Minor ( now this has passed 2 previous MOTs before at the same garage ) and was on the car when we got it . Advisories of a back tyre tread depth ? Check both and both over 3mm above the wear bars?? C __________________ The Three Bloo's Wifey's Zr105, MY CDTI & 260 #50 and Number One sons 1.8T in Firefrost When I were a lad Zero to 142 in 10.25 secs at the Pod on my Blown Norton. 210 Kart Champ in 70's

29th June 2018, 12:30	#7
Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	With the stricter regulations, not being able to see through the screen properly due to the bad blade would be considered a major fault. Much as we don’t like it sometimes, the MOT system had to be given this neccesary overhaul.

29th June 2018, 14:04	#10
rustymotor Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: May 2017 Location: Hull Posts: 1,848 Thanks: 216 Thanked 432 Times in 340 Posts	Put my old Merc in this week: Pass Monitor and repair if necessary( advisories) * (centre stop light not working) * Brake pad(s) wearing thin Offside rear *Brake pad(s) wearing thin Nearside rear So happy days