This car is really starting to annoy me! ZT CDTi starting issues

lew893 · 2nd December 2013, 12:35

Not had this car long and having a few issues, its had the normal fuel pump in the tank problem which was a temp fix by the RAC and was running ok. Last week I went to leave for London where I work full tank of Diesel and tried to start it and it just cranked over and refused to fire so no work for me! I changed the in tank pump for a new one and the under bonnet pump for a new one whilst I was at it, once finished it started and ran fine for a few days and then it refused to start again just cranking over and not firing up! Changed the Cam sensor and the crank sensor and it started up fine and also seemed to run smoother and better. Now went to start it as I'm going to London tonight and again its cranking fine but not starting! Anybody got any other suggestions on what the hell is wrong with this??? Feeling very frustrated and annoyed!!

Billy1mate · 2nd December 2013, 13:26

Fuel injector leak back check? I am not sure what it entails.

James.uk · 2nd December 2013, 13:54

Will it start and keep running if you use easy start?

It does sound a bit like a leaking injector though as Billy said... (and this could have been the problem all along)

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lew893 · 2nd December 2013, 14:07

I haven't got any easy start don't like using the stuff, looks like I'm gonna have to buy a multi meter and follow the guide on here. May give the RAC a ring see if they will check it out. Looks like I may be getting the bus to London tonight! Oh joy!

lew893 · 2nd December 2013, 14:08

Guessing a leaking injector will mean a new injector?

lew893 · 2nd December 2013, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by James.uk

Will it start and keep running if you use easy start?

It does sound a bit like a leaking injector though as Billy said... (and this could have been the problem all along)

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Possibly mate, the fuel pumps were definitely knackered though as I can now here them working before I start the car. As a pre emptive thing anybody know best place to get injectors? Gonna see if anybody locally can recon them also.

lew893 · 2nd December 2013, 15:48

Right the RAC guy has just been and it starts with easy start. He ran a diagnostics on the car and it came back with CAN CONNECTION ERROR if anybody has any suggestions on where the conection problem could be? Also when you switch the ignition on all the normal warning lights come on but not the engine management light? The light works as it can be activated by the diagnostics machine so the bulb has not been removed. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

James.uk · 2nd December 2013, 16:07

Jules can prob fix you up with an injector. Conwy NORTH WALES Tel 07831 457011 ...

Can't help with the elec problem, sorry...
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75Connie · 2nd December 2013, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lew893

Right the RAC guy has just been and it starts with easy start. He ran a diagnostics on the car and it came back with CAN CONNECTION ERROR if anybody has any suggestions on where the conection problem could be? Also when you switch the ignition on all the normal warning lights come on but not the engine management light? The light works as it can be activated by the diagnostics machine so the bulb has not been removed. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

On those occasions when it doesn't start:

A) are you absolutely sure that the under bonnet fuel pump is working on position II?
B) does the engine management light come on?
C) does the oil warning light come on?

trikey · 2nd December 2013, 19:26

Canbus can be a number of things, definatly sounds like a leaky injector(s)

Nip the leakback pipe with pliers, while someone else trys to start it, remove the pliers as soon as she fires up though!

2nd December 2013, 12:35	#1
lew893 Avid contributor MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middlesbrough + Arlesey + London Posts: 113 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	This car is really starting to annoy me! ZT CDTi starting issues Not had this car long and having a few issues, its had the normal fuel pump in the tank problem which was a temp fix by the RAC and was running ok. Last week I went to leave for London where I work full tank of Diesel and tried to start it and it just cranked over and refused to fire so no work for me! I changed the in tank pump for a new one and the under bonnet pump for a new one whilst I was at it, once finished it started and ran fine for a few days and then it refused to start again just cranking over and not firing up! Changed the Cam sensor and the crank sensor and it started up fine and also seemed to run smoother and better. Now went to start it as I'm going to London tonight and again its cranking fine but not starting! Anybody got any other suggestions on what the hell is wrong with this??? Feeling very frustrated and annoyed!! __________________ Glow plug light out fingers crossed and hopefully it starts!

2nd December 2013, 13:54	#3
James.uk Passed Away 2002 Pale Blue. Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur auto. 170K miles Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near the M67. Posts: 14,509 Thanks: 199 Thanked 585 Times in 397 Posts	Will it start and keep running if you use easy start? It does sound a bit like a leaking injector though as Billy said... (and this could have been the problem all along) ... Last edited by James.uk; 2nd December 2013 at 14:05..

2nd December 2013, 14:07	#4
lew893 Avid contributor MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middlesbrough + Arlesey + London Posts: 113 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I haven't got any easy start don't like using the stuff, looks like I'm gonna have to buy a multi meter and follow the guide on here. May give the RAC a ring see if they will check it out. Looks like I may be getting the bus to London tonight! Oh joy! __________________ Glow plug light out fingers crossed and hopefully it starts!

2nd December 2013, 14:08	#5
lew893 Avid contributor MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middlesbrough + Arlesey + London Posts: 113 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Guessing a leaking injector will mean a new injector? __________________ Glow plug light out fingers crossed and hopefully it starts!

2nd December 2013, 15:48	#7
lew893 Avid contributor MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middlesbrough + Arlesey + London Posts: 113 Thanks: 16 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Right the RAC guy has just been and it starts with easy start. He ran a diagnostics on the car and it came back with CAN CONNECTION ERROR if anybody has any suggestions on where the conection problem could be? Also when you switch the ignition on all the normal warning lights come on but not the engine management light? The light works as it can be activated by the diagnostics machine so the bulb has not been removed. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!! __________________ Glow plug light out fingers crossed and hopefully it starts!

2nd December 2013, 13:26	#2
Billy1mate Posted a thing or two 120d M Sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sunny Weymouth Posts: 1,815 Thanks: 153 Thanked 142 Times in 121 Posts	Fuel injector leak back check? I am not sure what it entails.

2nd December 2013, 16:07	#8
James.uk Passed Away 2002 Pale Blue. Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur auto. 170K miles Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near the M67. Posts: 14,509 Thanks: 199 Thanked 585 Times in 397 Posts	Jules can prob fix you up with an injector. Conwy NORTH WALES Tel 07831 457011 ... Can't help with the elec problem, sorry... ...

2nd December 2013, 19:26	#10
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,772 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Canbus can be a number of things, definatly sounds like a leaky injector(s) Nip the leakback pipe with pliers, while someone else trys to start it, remove the pliers as soon as she fires up though! __________________ Lest we forget..