Airbag deployment in a ZT - Page 5

rockerbox · 12th March 2017, 08:29

I'm afraid I don't have the equipment available to do any empirical tests on airbag deployment so would have to rely on the data of manufactures and the various safety standards bodies that do such things. I can't see where I ever offered any figures, just input into how I interpret airbag operation.

As I'm sure you realise, IQ tests only test the ability of the taker to take IQ tests, completely pointless then, and a man sausage waving competition is not on my agenda.

Have a nice life, and drink in moderation.

sworks · 12th March 2017, 10:55

Can we all stay civil to each other please?

Avulon · 12th March 2017, 11:15

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Originally Posted by sworks

Can we all stay civil to each other please?

My apologies to the rest of the forum members, I did lose my cool a little just then. I don't think I need say anything further. I will now confine any further comments on this thread to the subject of the OP alone, and refrain from responding to any further abuse.

kaiser · 13th March 2017, 17:54

Why argue when there is enough room to fight??

anyway, there seems to be the general confusion that one would expect, when the butcher and the baker discuss physics.

As for the example with something thrown into the air, it is rather simple.
the item continues to accelerate until it leaves your hand (and the force you have applied to it). After that it will continue to decelerate, until it reaches its ultimate high, which will correspond to a relative motion of zero. After that, it will accelerate the whole way down to earth, (unless you have thrown it so high, that it reaches a terminal velocity, meaning the acceleration working on it (gravity) will balance the resistance from the air, and the item will reach a steady speed.)
It will then decelerate violently as it hits the ground, which should trigger the air bag.

That is the theory, but some airbags are triggered by shocks, like hitting a curb or, in my case, cracking the oil pan on a stone. These events provide a sharp knock, localised, but none or slight deceleration of the car only, if any at all! These are cases where the deployment of an airbag is not wanted, and where it is downright dangerous.

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kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	Why argue when there is enough room to fight?? anyway, there seems to be the general confusion that one would expect, when the butcher and the baker discuss physics. As for the example with something thrown into the air, it is rather simple. the item continues to accelerate until it leaves your hand (and the force you have applied to it). After that it will continue to decelerate, until it reaches its ultimate high, which will correspond to a relative motion of zero. After that, it will accelerate the whole way down to earth, (unless you have thrown it so high, that it reaches a terminal velocity, meaning the acceleration working on it (gravity) will balance the resistance from the air, and the item will reach a steady speed.) It will then decelerate violently as it hits the ground, which should trigger the air bag. That is the theory, but some airbags are triggered by shocks, like hitting a curb or, in my case, cracking the oil pan on a stone. These events provide a sharp knock, localised, but none or slight deceleration of the car only, if any at all! These are cases where the deployment of an airbag is not wanted, and where it is downright dangerous. __________________ Worth his V8 in gold Last edited by kaiser; 13th March 2017 at 17:56..

12th March 2017, 08:29	#41
rockerbox Avid contributor MG ZT/T Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Thurrock Posts: 244 Thanks: 37 Thanked 39 Times in 34 Posts	I'm afraid I don't have the equipment available to do any empirical tests on airbag deployment so would have to rely on the data of manufactures and the various safety standards bodies that do such things. I can't see where I ever offered any figures, just input into how I interpret airbag operation. As I'm sure you realise, IQ tests only test the ability of the taker to take IQ tests, completely pointless then, and a man sausage waving competition is not on my agenda. Have a nice life, and drink in moderation.