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16th April 2020, 12:31 | #1 |
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Eastern European Pickers?
It seems that we don't have anyone to pick our crops in Eastern England, so pickers are being flown in from Eastern Europe to do the job. The jobs were advertised locally but no-one applied!!!! In the middle of a pandemic, we are flying people in from Eastern Europe! Really? Yes! This is not fake news, it's on the BBC now!!! It beggars belief!
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We have no need to work, we have the state to support us.
Perhaps it is our system that allows jobs to go unfilled while we have unemployed. macafee2 |
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Should have made all those who won’t self isolate do it, they seem to enjoy being outside.
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Oh the irony of this story.
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The problem is now the same as it has been for some time. Growers will not pay a living wage for home-grown labour. They won't compete with the benefit system.
The Eastern European seasonal pickers are grateful for whatever work they can get, back breaking though it is, and by all accounts even at the paltry minimum rates on offer, earn more than they could at home. Our benefit system pays people not to work and is another way to mask the true position of the 'unemployment' economy. It goes a long way to reminding us of the same system that employed hundreds of hop pickers that used to migrate from London to Kent for the season to live in sheds, all those years ago. People are still even now being exploited. I'd be happy to pay an extra £2 for a bag of spuds or 50p a day extra on a lettuce instead of the latest computer game every other month to a Chinese factory. Fortunately nobody remembers Georgian times under another system with some similarities and the tragic starvation of families in Ireland. There ain't nothing new.
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... And meanwhile robots steal the jobs of the semi-skilled manufacturing worker, computers have stolen the hordes of office jobs from typing pool to accounts clerk.
... And we conveniently forget the dreamed of utopian society that we all aspired to - where the machines did all the work so we could live life and pursue our own interests in peace. Instead we decide to start namecalling 'dole bludgers', 'idle', 'lazy', and the like - because their jobs have been taken by machinery and automation, and it's easier to pigeonhole groups of people than look at individuals. At the same time we want to pay the minimum we can get away with for the essentials of life - so go to the supermarkets who give it to us by screwing the farmer down so tight that they can't afford to pay minimum wage to the 'unskilled' agricultural workers that we depend upon to make that food available. And then we scoff in incredulity that we have to go further afield to find people prepared to work to live.... And blame the growers??????????????? Well said Wraymond - Like you I too will spend a little more for fresh food, Use local small shops that source goods locally where possible and practical. But I also fall for the mass cheapness of the likes of Amazon / Morrison's / Sainsbury every day (I'm ashamed to admit it). I work full time and am continuing to do so from home. It's unlikely that I will be furloughed at all. Even given my unfitness and age I'd happily go and pick crops for a day a week for very little direct or immediate reward if I had nowt else to do.
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Working on the land was my first job out of school, it was hard graft with earnings on piece rate but the money in my pocket every week was more than the dole unlike now. I stuck it for two years then had to move to find more stable work.
Like has been said before would be quite willing to pay a little more on my groceries if that money filtered down to those doing the hard graft. Unfortunately in the world we share that is very unlikely to happen. |
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Another factor is that they are being given temporary, isolated accomodation.
I doubt these jobs would cover rent, let alone a mortgage.
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why should growers pay more if they can get the same job for less? This is where the government should set a decent living wage and no matter where you are from, this is what you are paid. No state benefit should be more then then living wage, but lets not forget minimum wage. If people choose not to work, no state help, growers must demonstrate they have tried to get local labour irrespective on nationality before then can employ foreign sourced labour. Australia has a system but I don't fully know what it is, may be we should look at that macafee2 anything else I have forgotten as I'm trying to cover all bases |
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