Neither remote nor key open the doors?!

r44flyer · 14th September 2017, 14:33

Hello all...
I'm currently locked out of our ZT as the remote will not open the doors and the key will not turn in the lock! Is this not a bit bizarre?!

No idea yet what the problem is but it's obviously quite urgent.

Any ideas what the problem is and how to get into the car?

Many thanks.

r44flyer · 14th September 2017, 14:56

Changed the fob battery... no cigar

madeupname · 14th September 2017, 16:12

Sometimes it's the simple things

EDIT - Ahh, just got it, I thought you had solved the problem.

cb750chris · 14th September 2017, 18:05

At the risk of asking the silly question, you haven't got a key from a different car have you?
The remote and the mechanical lock are independent, so the fault you describe would only really happen if the mechanism had failed and the remote stuff had also failed, unlikely to happen at the same time.

Chris

roverbarmy · 14th September 2017, 18:08

Does the key in the lock actually turn? If not, spray WD40 into the lock with the straw attachment and gently try turning from side to side. It's mechanical, so should work if free. If you are getting nothing from the fob ( ie no lights flashing or clicking in door) your car battery may be totally discharged.

Note to self :- Use the mechanical lock from time to time to make sure that it is free!!!!!!

r44flyer · 14th September 2017, 19:08

Well, before I called a locksmith I gave it another go, turning the key and bumping the door whilst turning the key. After applying some silicone grease to the lock. It opened!

I can't explain how this affects the remote locking though?! Pressing the button you couldn't see or hear anything trying to move. Maybe if it was somehow mechanically locked solid it wouldn't move?

For the record the battery is fine and all keys and locks are the same as they were yesterday! None have ever been changed, and the car is used daily.

I'll keep an eye on it!
Thanks all.

Mike Noc · 15th September 2017, 09:44

There is a cable that runs from the lock barrel to the locking assembly and if this frays it will start playing up and finally fail.

You have to strip the lock out to get to it, but it isn't that difficult a job. Mine failed last year - luckily I had a good spare from the scrapper.

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14th September 2017, 18:05	#4
cb750chris Trader Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 849 Thanks: 201 Thanked 292 Times in 200 Posts	At the risk of asking the silly question, you haven't got a key from a different car have you? The remote and the mechanical lock are independent, so the fault you describe would only really happen if the mechanism had failed and the remote stuff had also failed, unlikely to happen at the same time. Chris __________________ Now offering T4 services in the Fareham area Replacement keys programmed / supplied / cut Diesel 135 upgrade available IPK virginisation and T4 matching available Sorry, due to a big change in home circumstances, I am unable to do any large jobs at present, but can still offer evening time diagnostics.

14th September 2017, 18:08	#5
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Does the key in the lock actually turn? If not, spray WD40 into the lock with the straw attachment and gently try turning from side to side. It's mechanical, so should work if free. If you are getting nothing from the fob ( ie no lights flashing or clicking in door) your car battery may be totally discharged. Note to self :- Use the mechanical lock from time to time to make sure that it is free!!!!!! __________________ Oil in my veins!

14th September 2017, 14:56	#2
r44flyer Loves to post MG ZT-T CDTi 135+ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Birmingham Posts: 467 Thanks: 5 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Changed the fob battery... no cigar

14th September 2017, 19:08	#6
r44flyer Loves to post MG ZT-T CDTi 135+ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Birmingham Posts: 467 Thanks: 5 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Well, before I called a locksmith I gave it another go, turning the key and bumping the door whilst turning the key. After applying some silicone grease to the lock. It opened! I can't explain how this affects the remote locking though?! Pressing the button you couldn't see or hear anything trying to move. Maybe if it was somehow mechanically locked solid it wouldn't move? For the record the battery is fine and all keys and locks are the same as they were yesterday! None have ever been changed, and the car is used daily. I'll keep an eye on it! Thanks all.

15th September 2017, 09:44	#7
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,547 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	There is a cable that runs from the lock barrel to the locking assembly and if this frays it will start playing up and finally fail. You have to strip the lock out to get to it, but it isn't that difficult a job. Mine failed last year - luckily I had a good spare from the scrapper.