Poor quality aftermarket parts! - Page 3

DMGRS · 13th December 2019, 11:24

We spend a lot of money (almost a waste, it sometimes seems) weeding out poor quality parts from the rest - the 'naughty corner' became a 'naughty room' in the end!

It's just how it is - there's a lot of toss out there, and it's often sold with bells and whistles to draw in the public and specialists alike. Luckily these days we're a lot better at spotting it than we used to be.

Does anyone remember the Mk2 Tazu Metal Master Cylinder? I certainly do...

It's an ongoing battle that's only going to get harder for Joe Public as the number of manufacturers of parts for MGR bits grows ever smaller - several of the brands we purchase from regularly have announced they're stopping making the parts we love, so back to the drawing board.

If it's Rear Sensors you need, drop us a PM and I'll send you a pair free-of-charge for the issues you've had in the past.
We have buckets of ex-Longbridge stock we're sorting through, and I've found a good few in there. Genuine MG Rover, as fitted at the factory.

Robti · 13th December 2019, 14:43

when I was in business we complained about the quality of chrome towel radiators that we were buying in at around the £80 and the supplier told us that these were bought from the manufacturer in turkey for under £20, but the problem was that as it went through the distribution chain before ending up with us everyone had put their cut onto it and changed the package so it looked like it was made in the UK, I assume this is what happens to car parts

roverbarmy · 13th December 2019, 15:10

Thank goodness that the majority of your vehicle is good quality to start with. How must it feel to pay tens of thousands for something and it deteriorates before the warranty has expired!!!!

DMGRS · 13th December 2019, 16:07

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Originally Posted by Robti

when I was in business we complained about the quality of chrome towel radiators that we were buying in at around the £80 and the supplier told us that these were bought from the manufacturer in turkey for under £20, but the problem was that as it went through the distribution chain before ending up with us everyone had put their cut onto it and changed the package so it looked like it was made in the UK, I assume this is what happens to car parts

Very much so - cutting out steps in the chain has allowed us to do deals such as VIS Motors for less than £70 a pair on offer, and other prices that 5 years ago would have been completely unthinkable.

The amount of steps in the chain is sometimes genuinely baffling.

oswestryalex · 13th December 2019, 20:14

Hi, I have to say that just having a manufacturer who is in business is not enough. I'd bought a Ford Galaxy which was 16 years old - Ford refused to touch it, not even to cut me a spare key. Said no spare parts to replace faulty locks, nothing... I have heard that with Ford if it is over 5 years old, they just don't want to know. I had more luck getting parts of any sort for my Rover 75 and MG ZT than for that Ford Galaxy, which has now been scrapped, because the clutch went.... long story (see my Swiss adventure for more).

SCP440 · 14th December 2019, 08:46

I know what you mean about Ford, I had a prang in my 8 year old MK7 Transit last year and I was amazed to find how many parts were not available to repair it. The first dealer who was supplying parts to the body shop basically just said ''not available''. Luckily another dealer tried a bit harder and found all the parts except a cooling fan and shroud were available in Europe or Turkey????. I managed to source a new cooling fan on the bay and the body shop repaired the fan shroud.

I know of a Renault owned by a friend that is waiting for a part and has been for over a month, the dealer has given up and has told him to scrap it . He is hoping to get a part from a damaged car but the dealer wont fit it.

trikey · 14th December 2019, 08:48

When I moulded plastics for Nissan, we were instructed that we had to store the moulds for ten years after the production of a model had stopped.

marinabrian · 14th December 2019, 09:06

Nine years after production ceases of a particular model is what manufacturers are mandated to carry all spares for in the UK

After that it is discretionary as to what is covered..........for instance I had no issue ordering a pair of sills seventeen years ago for a W113 Mercedes I was running.

The car at the time was 32 years old

Brian

SCP440 · 14th December 2019, 10:40

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Originally Posted by marinabrian

Nine years after production ceases of a particular model is what manufacturers are mandated to carry all spares for in the UK

We knew this and the dealer just said no problem I will put it on back order then. The body shop who were doing the repairs had come across this before with an imported Ford that he knew the Swindon Ford dealer was a lot better at sourcing hard to get parts. In the end the front bumper was put on a VOR ( Vehicle of Road) and it arrived within 24 hours from Norway.

breakfastinsmethwick · 14th December 2019, 11:50

My son has just replaced his ZT with a 1999 BMW 5 series tourer. The BMW dealer was able to supply a light control ecu and underbody steel fuel pipes in 24 hrs at sort of sensible for a dealer pricing. A spare key ready cut was £50. The dealer was very helpful with information and advice too.

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DMGRS Discount MG Rover Spares Rover 75 CDTi, 2x MG ZS180 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hythe, Southampton Posts: 11,320 Thanks: 456 Thanked 3,377 Times in 2,027 Posts	We spend a lot of money (almost a waste, it sometimes seems) weeding out poor quality parts from the rest - the 'naughty corner' became a 'naughty room' in the end! It's just how it is - there's a lot of toss out there, and it's often sold with bells and whistles to draw in the public and specialists alike. Luckily these days we're a lot better at spotting it than we used to be. Does anyone remember the Mk2 Tazu Metal Master Cylinder? I certainly do... It's an ongoing battle that's only going to get harder for Joe Public as the number of manufacturers of parts for MGR bits grows ever smaller - several of the brands we purchase from regularly have announced they're stopping making the parts we love, so back to the drawing board. If it's Rear Sensors you need, drop us a PM and I'll send you a pair free-of-charge for the issues you've had in the past. We have buckets of ex-Longbridge stock we're sorting through, and I've found a good few in there. Genuine MG Rover, as fitted at the factory. __________________ Your trusted MG Rover specialist! Tel: 02380 001133 / Email: [email protected] We now have a 'chat' function on our site for even quicker replies. Give it a try! Remember - discount code FORUM5 for 5% off Last edited by DMGRS; 13th December 2019 at 11:29..

13th December 2019, 14:43	#22
Robti Posted a thing or two MG ZT-T 190+,Rover 800 vitesse coupe Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Hamilton Posts: 1,969 Thanks: 616 Thanked 228 Times in 210 Posts	when I was in business we complained about the quality of chrome towel radiators that we were buying in at around the £80 and the supplier told us that these were bought from the manufacturer in turkey for under £20, but the problem was that as it went through the distribution chain before ending up with us everyone had put their cut onto it and changed the package so it looked like it was made in the UK, I assume this is what happens to car parts __________________ Robert

13th December 2019, 15:10	#23
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Thank goodness that the majority of your vehicle is good quality to start with. How must it feel to pay tens of thousands for something and it deteriorates before the warranty has expired!!!! __________________ Oil in my veins!

14th December 2019, 08:48	#27
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,768 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	When I moulded plastics for Nissan, we were instructed that we had to store the moulds for ten years after the production of a model had stopped. __________________ Lest we forget..

14th December 2019, 11:50	#30
breakfastinsmethwick Gets stuck in Maintainer of sons ZT M47r Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Shropshire Posts: 624 Thanks: 609 Thanked 124 Times in 100 Posts	Io My son has just replaced his ZT with a 1999 BMW 5 series tourer. The BMW dealer was able to supply a light control ecu and underbody steel fuel pipes in 24 hrs at sort of sensible for a dealer pricing. A spare key ready cut was £50. The dealer was very helpful with information and advice too.

13th December 2019, 20:14	#25
oswestryalex Loves to post Rover 75 1.8T connoisseur saloon 2003 in blue , MG ZT 190+ 2003 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oswestry Posts: 308 Thanks: 159 Thanked 99 Times in 57 Posts	Hi, I have to say that just having a manufacturer who is in business is not enough. I'd bought a Ford Galaxy which was 16 years old - Ford refused to touch it, not even to cut me a spare key. Said no spare parts to replace faulty locks, nothing... I have heard that with Ford if it is over 5 years old, they just don't want to know. I had more luck getting parts of any sort for my Rover 75 and MG ZT than for that Ford Galaxy, which has now been scrapped, because the clutch went.... long story (see my Swiss adventure for more).

14th December 2019, 08:46	#26
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	I know what you mean about Ford, I had a prang in my 8 year old MK7 Transit last year and I was amazed to find how many parts were not available to repair it. The first dealer who was supplying parts to the body shop basically just said ''not available''. Luckily another dealer tried a bit harder and found all the parts except a cooling fan and shroud were available in Europe or Turkey????. I managed to source a new cooling fan on the bay and the body shop repaired the fan shroud. I know of a Renault owned by a friend that is waiting for a part and has been for over a month, the dealer has given up and has told him to scrap it . He is hoping to get a part from a damaged car but the dealer wont fit it.

14th December 2019, 09:06	#28
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	Nine years after production ceases of a particular model is what manufacturers are mandated to carry all spares for in the UK After that it is discretionary as to what is covered..........for instance I had no issue ordering a pair of sills seventeen years ago for a W113 Mercedes I was running. The car at the time was 32 years old Brian