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I am of the opposite view. Taxes are dynamic mechanisms that react in response to changes in people behaviour, improvements in knowledge, natural changes etc. and also to drive change. There is no point in limiting the number of tax mechanisms as this will limit the ability to differentiate between target populations for taxing and effecting change. By all means, put additional tax on fuels to improve funding of chosen programmes, including public transport, but in my view VED on vehicles is an absolute must as a way of containing the problems caused by multi-car ownership per household. |
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Agreed, which it would not be unless the car passed an APNR system or an APNR system went to the car. The probability of catching an untaxed car using ANPR must therefore be relatively low especially if the car is on the public highway but is not driven very much. |
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I do see your logic, but it is in my mind the same as those who change their car to take benefit of a cheaper VED. It would still have to be insured, or insured to remain on the roads, so that would 'control' the abandoned vehicles on the road (via ANPR as it does now). this would also reduce the public expenditure on DVA offices.
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I think mss is getting at is that governments like to use lots of modest levers, as opposed to few large ones, to discourage or encourage certain behaviours. As long as this remains so, we'll see taxes that reflect this. |
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yes I knew that. I thought it would be obvious though, having a 'modest' additional cost to fuel would manipulate the behaviour of taking less journeys. Thereby reducing emissions or encouraging the transfer to electric power vehicles.
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I have 2 cars and a bike, I can only use 1 at a time so how does me owning more then 1 vehicle become a problem? macafee2 |
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put a tax disc in the window and a member of the public may note no tax and call the police, there, we now have extra eyes checking for tax Not saying this was done but people could be asked to report no tax no tax, should not be on road sorn, should not be on the road no sorn and no tax but parked in the garage, fine as in financial penalty no sorn and no tax but on road, fine as in financial penalty no worse off not having the sorn system macafee2 |
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It becomes a problem for those living around you if you have three vehicles but parking space for only one. This is a widespread problem in cities leading to antisocial behaviour. In terms of proposed solutions, I have many that address the short-term and others addressing the long-term. These range from exponentially increasing taxes for multi-car households without private parking spaces to licence to have more than one child per household. |
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As the number of electric vehicles is going to greatly increase in the coming years the total income produced by adding more to the tax on petrol/diesel is progressively going to decrease.
The fairest tax is on mileage usage. My suggestion is to make the charge annually (like the existing vehicle tax) but based on the mileage shown on the annual MOT. Should a vehicle be sold or scrapped during the year the mileage should be verified by a MOT station then the mileage cost due at that time would be paid by the seller/scrapper.at the same time as they notify the DVLA of the change. Any clocking would perhaps be deterred by a very extensive ban and heavy fine. |
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