brake hose clamp pliers

[Blink]

Can anyone recommend some decent (but cheap ) brake hose clamps or pliers? I need to get the calipers off for refurbing (and a rear subframe change) so rather than drain the whole braking system I was thinking of doing this:

1. Clamp hose
2. Disconnect hose from caliper
3. (If possible) screw an end cap/blanking plug onto hose
4. Undo hose clamp
5. Remove caliper

I also need something with which to do step 3.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by Blink

1. Clamp hose
2. Disconnect hose from caliper
3. (If possible) screw an end cap/blanking plug onto hose
4. Undo hose clamp
5. Remove caliper

I also need something with which to do step 3.

Why not just leave the clamp or clamps in place, instead of 3 ?

I don't have any proper clamps, I use tiny G clamps, or self grip wrenches, with some split hose or similar slipped over, to protect the brake flexible.

[RogerHeinz57]

I would suggest that the long term clamping of hoses is detrimental to their design, we understand that at some stage they are likely to get clamped, however this is usually for a limited period of time which is likely to self heal after removal, however the long term is likely to cause damage especially to aged hoses. If going to the effort of fitting refurbished subframe and calipers, why not do the hoses as well. This way you could simply fold the hose and cable tie it tight to prevent leakage. Alternatively, elevate the hose above the height of the ABS unit and cling film the end to limit leak-out.

[RogerHeinz57]

Also, just to offer an alternative, if removing the brake hose from the metal pipe, you could use the bleed nipple cover from the caliper to cover the brake line union end !
Just a thought !

[Blink]

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

Why not just leave the clamp or clamps in place, instead of 3 ?

I don't trust the clamps not to leak. Plus I might knock them off accidentally while struggling with the subframe & arms etc.

Originally Posted by RogerHeinz57

I would suggest that the long term clamping of hoses is detrimental to their design, we understand that at some stage they are likely to get clamped, however this is usually for a limited period of time which is likely to self heal after removal, however the long term is likely to cause damage especially to aged hoses. If going to the effort of fitting refurbished subframe and calipers, why not do the hoses as well. This way you could simply fold the hose and cable tie it tight to prevent leakage. Alternatively, elevate the hose above the height of the ABS unit and cling film the end to limit leak-out.

I'll be changing the hoses as well but I didn't want to drain it down completely yet in case something goes wrong with the rest of the job.

Will folding & cable tying the hose stop leakage/seepage? Ditto elevating & cling film?

Originally Posted by RogerHeinz57

Also, just to offer an alternative, if removing the brake hose from the metal pipe, you could use the bleed nipple cover from the caliper to cover the brake line union end !
Just a thought !

I don't think the bleed nipple cover will stop fluid escape at the union end. A screw on end cap (like a plumbing end cap) would do the job if I could find something that fits either the hose end or the union end. I can't see anything obvious here - https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID001566.

[Blink]

For info, here's a clear pic of the ends on a new hose - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223624544582 - my new ones look the same as this but they're Delphi branded.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by Blink

I don't think the bleed nipple cover will stop fluid escape at the union end. A screw on end cap (like a plumbing end cap) would do the job if I could find something that fits either the hose end or the union end. I can't see anything obvious here - https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID001566.

You could make up a union, with a short bit of pipe, crushing the end over and folding it.

[clf]

Originally Posted by RogerHeinz57

The OP is doing calipers at the same time as replacing rear sub frame, thus it depends how fast he goes, but may not want to do a drain down due to primary & secondry circuit air ingress.

The four big capsules of air when I replaced my calipers meant I wasnt concerned about air in the rest of the system. In this instance it will only have two.

Provided it is bled correctly and methodically after, air will not be an issue. These systems would have been empty of fluid at least once in its life, and was successfully filled.

I like your idea of cutting the hose, and screw, which is probably what I would do if the hoses were being replaced. But even then gravity would do its thing until the point of fitting the screw.

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[Blink]

Thanks for all the ideas chaps - I'm inwardly digesting them.

Meanwhile, what about this (screwed into hose end)? https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/13285443956...SABEgLjz_D_BwE

Or this in the pipe end? https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/2-X-Brass-B...mec/1024835760. I can't see a thread.

I phoned this place - they're with a customer so I'll phone back - https://creationsmotorsport.com/inde...bung-1217.html

Or - https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s...urer:goodridge

[COLVERT]

A number of complicated ideas here.--

Just use the double round bar clamp.

It won't damage any hose and can be used in the future if you need to work on the calipers.

It won't leak and unless you hit it with a sledge hammer it won't come off.

Happy clamping.--