Vaccination-good news.

[stevestrat]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Tonight I got text from her, 5 positive cases in her ward and it's not even a covid ward,

By the time she finished this morning it had gone up to 9

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

By the time she finished this morning it had gone up to 9

And it's possible that some of them had been vaccinated.---

[Steamdrivenandy]

I got my first vaccine jab appointment this morning, almost by accident.

I'm 73 and Mrs SDA is 5 years younger. Our GP's surgery posted on Facebook on Monday that they were waiting to hear how many doses they'd been allocated for next week and then, as they'd finished the 75 to 79's they'd be organising the 70 to 75 group. That all sounded fine and I was expecting a call sometime soon.

This morning the surgery rang and spoke to Mrs SDA who has been advised not to have the vaccination yet. The receptionist realised that she shouldn't have rung her, but Mrs SDA mentioned that I was waiting a call. So the receptionist said that I was on a different list but she may as well book me in.

It left me wondering why 67 year old Mrs SDA got a call before 73 year old me, when the surgery was supposed to be sorting the 70-75 age group?

[ceedy]

Had my vac offered today, been doing some locally, but offered a 40+ mile round trip for mine , was happy to do it if wife could have it as well, but shes 2 years younger so thats a no . I'll wait then ,


Would think that Vaccing the whole family bubble together would be an Idea ?

[steve-45]

Originally Posted by ceedy

Would think that Vaccing the whole family bubble together would be an Idea ?

Would seem like a good idea, but I suppose you have to draw the line somewhere, I’m 3 groups below the other person in my bubble, so not expecting mine until late March.

[WillyHeckaslike]

Found an interesting link to an article which gives good insight to the vaccine supply problems as explained by AstraZeneca's CEO. I find it very informative and it shines a light on the EU's antics, and not a very good light at that. Click

Edit: Just noticed that Clive mentioned this article in an earlier post but the link provides full details of it.

[COLVERT]

Now I would like to add a little more of my thoughts about the virus that I said in previous posts in this thread.

1/ I don't know the figures for folk catching this virus before they get vaccinated but it must be very high.

2/ The survival rate is high as most of these folk recover on their own. Their own anti-bodies have dealt with the problem.

3/ The action of the vaccine is to fool your body in to thinking it's under attack from Covid 19.--This makes the body start up its immune system to get anti-bodies into production.

4/ In up to 3 weeks after the jab the body will, hopefully, be well enough equipped with anti-bodies to deal with this virus invasion.

5/ There seems to be a war going on about insufficient vaccine supply. I think I read that GB had in stock 60,000,000 doses. ( Close to the population of the country for one jab each. )

6/ Now, finally, I have reached the point of my post. That is that a huge number have had and successfully fought off Covid 19. These folk must now have a very large number of anti-bodies inside them and thus have no need of a jab.

This must be happening all over the world and the need for a vaccine must dropping very quickly. Why oh why are all these counties at one another's throats about something that soon will not be needed with such urgency. It's very nice to see the high numbers of folk getting the jab but it makes me wonder how many of them really need it.

Does anyone know if people are tested for anti-bodies BEFORE they get the jab ??---

[stocktake]

Hi Jon,
My wife has had both Pfizer jabs, no checks are done prior to the injection, we are almost certain she has had C-19 previously firstly due to her exposure and secondly the fact that I have been confirmed as previously having the virus due to the discovery of antibodies in my system when I had a blood test for a none related issue.

[solarsailor]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

6/ Now, finally, I have reached the point of my post. That is that a huge number have had and successfully fought off Covid 19. These folk must now have a very large number of anti-bodies inside them and thus have no need of a jab.

This must be happening all over the world and the need for a vaccine must dropping very quickly. Why oh why are all these counties at one another's throats about something that soon will not be needed with such urgency. It's very nice to see the high numbers of folk getting the jab but it makes me wonder how many of them really need it.

Does anyone know if people are tested for anti-bodies BEFORE they get the jab ??---

I can see what you're getting at, but things are never as simple as we'd sometimes like them to be.

The strength of the immune response between individuals varies greatly and for a variety of reasons. Someone who contracts covid and remains asymptomatic or has only mild symptoms will produce a low - maybe even immeasurable - antibody count. Generally speaking, someone who experiences severe symptoms will produce higher levels of antibodies but that's not always the case because age and other factors come into play. Also, in patients who become ill enough to need hospital treatment, covid is often so overpowering that the immune system becomes exhausted and is unable to adequately form its immune "memory" against any future infection.

If you take into account that antibodies produced naturally from having covid weaken over time, the best way to reduce infection rates (and also lessen the severity of covid in those who do get it) is to ensure that everyone has a high level of antibodies and the only way to achieve this is by giving as many people the vaccine as possible - regardless of whether or not they've had the virus before.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by stocktake

Hi Jon,
My wife has had both Pfizer jabs, no checks are done prior to the injection, we are almost certain she has had C-19 previously firstly due to her exposure and secondly the fact that I have been confirmed as previously having the virus due to the discovery of antibodies in my system when I had a blood test for a none related issue.

Hi Dave.--Thanks for your post.

I thinks a test might help a lot of people. There have been posts about the effect an injection against Covid 19 . Making some people feel ill or swelling to the arm injected.
Probably a lot of that could be avoided if a test showed anti-bodies in the blood.
No point making someone feel ill for no good reason.----Especially when that jab could be of real value to another person.

I'm sure there are things that could be improved on in this anti Covid campaign.--