Where is my water going again - Page 2

timon · 25th April 2019, 11:34

Do you have AA European coverage? The car's age shouldn't matter at all. They can only deny recovery to the UK for 2 possible reasons:

1. The car can be repaired within the time of your stay abroad.

2. Recovery fees exceed car's value.

Gunnerhavesome · 25th April 2019, 11:55

I have RAC European coverage but like all insurance companies, its not what we think our car is worth its what they think. So in this case recovery fee would exceed the cars value. Plus as I am still here for a few more weeks the car can also be fixed in time.

timon · 25th April 2019, 12:18

I worked for RAC in France (Lyon). We would always kindly recover any vehicle as long as it suffered from mechanical damage and wasn't wrecked in an accident. The real cost per km was somewhere at GBP 0.30.

But yes, if it can be repaired in time and doesn't involve stripping the engine from its internals it'll have to be done in France.

SD1too · 25th April 2019, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnerhavesome

Apparently the water pump needs replacing along with the cam belt????? so the man says???? ... Cant understand why that would leak out the back ...

If the KV6 water pump leaks then the coolant will run down over the cambelt and exit in the area of the oil filter, towards "the back" of the engine compartment. The front cambelt will have to be removed to renew the water pump and MG Rover states that if it's been contaminated with coolant or covered more than 45,000 miles, it should not be refitted.

So Graeme you appear to have a credible diagnosis there which makes a change! Has the garage not given you a quote? You asked what this would cost in the UK but that's irrelevant really isn't it. It's not going to be cheap because there's a lot of dismantling necessary to get access to the water pump (I did it myself last year).

How many miles has the engine covered in total and since the last cambelts change? Were the tensioner and idler pulleys renewed then?

Simon

Gunnerhavesome · 26th April 2019, 12:43

Thanks Simon, It makes sense to me now after reading your post. The garage has given me a quote and I was wiping tears from my eyes and drying my teeth. I didn't put the quote one here to avoid some of the possible doom sayer comments as it is more than I paid for the car 4 years ago but as a whole the car has only covered 75,000 miles, and apart from this issue is just perfect and runs like a dream. I don't know when or if the cam belt was changed, it looked in good nick but I was on my list of things to do for the next service when I get home. Guess I wont have to do that now.

You are right the cost really is irrelevant if am prepared to pay it and keep the car. It was just to give me a ball park figure to see that I am not being taken for he's a foreigner mahosive ride.

Graeme

SD1too · 26th April 2019, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnerhavesome

I didn't put the quote on here ... as it is more than I paid for the car 4 years ago ...

Actually that's a good reason to accept the quote!

Low purchase price means you can afford to pay for the occasional bit of unwelcome news and still have a car representing good value for money.

At 75,000 miles I'd recommend that you ask for the cambelt tensioner pulley and cambelt idler wheel to be renewed. The parts aren't expensive and there's no extra labour involved (mine had noisy and rough bearings at 90,000 miles).

Simon

timon · 27th April 2019, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

Actually that's a good reason to accept the quote!

Low purchase price means you can afford to pay for the occasional bit of unwelcome news and still have a car representing good value for money.

Simon

Sadly most people don't think of it this way, but I couldn't agree more.

ricebridge · 28th April 2019, 22:41

Another possible leaker is the inlet manifold gasket(s). I’m just figuring this one out but just look at what I found on my car: (new one below for comparison)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6oqXpn8z6HzEKFKN9

Not much coolant that could be contained by that...

kaiser · 29th April 2019, 06:58

another design fault of the V6.
The paper gasket is water absorbent and that thin rubber stripe is totally not of any use whatsoever.
I paint mine silver on both sides and torque evenly. Normal silver metal paint will do.
That seems to do the trick!

Blink · 29th April 2019, 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricebridge

Another possible leaker is the inlet manifold gasket(s). I’m just figuring this one out but just look at what I found on my car: (new one below for comparison)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6oqXpn8z6HzEKFKN9

Not much coolant that could be contained by that...

How did you spot it - i.e. where was the coolant appearing (before you took the manifold off)?

29th April 2019, 06:58	#19
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	another design fault of the V6. The paper gasket is water absorbent and that thin rubber stripe is totally not of any use whatsoever. I paint mine silver on both sides and torque evenly. Normal silver metal paint will do. That seems to do the trick! __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

25th April 2019, 11:34	#11
timon Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 145 Thanks: 15 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts	Do you have AA European coverage? The car's age shouldn't matter at all. They can only deny recovery to the UK for 2 possible reasons: 1. The car can be repaired within the time of your stay abroad. 2. Recovery fees exceed car's value.

25th April 2019, 11:55	#12
Gunnerhavesome Avid contributor 2001 Rover 75 2.0 V6 Con SE, Range Rover P38 4.6 for my Russian winter home Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: France Feb to October/Sevastopol Crimea November to Jan Posts: 145 Thanks: 155 Thanked 43 Times in 35 Posts	I have RAC European coverage but like all insurance companies, its not what we think our car is worth its what they think. So in this case recovery fee would exceed the cars value. Plus as I am still here for a few more weeks the car can also be fixed in time.

25th April 2019, 12:18	#13
timon Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 145 Thanks: 15 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts	I worked for RAC in France (Lyon). We would always kindly recover any vehicle as long as it suffered from mechanical damage and wasn't wrecked in an accident. The real cost per km was somewhere at GBP 0.30. But yes, if it can be repaired in time and doesn't involve stripping the engine from its internals it'll have to be done in France.

26th April 2019, 12:43	#15
Gunnerhavesome Avid contributor 2001 Rover 75 2.0 V6 Con SE, Range Rover P38 4.6 for my Russian winter home Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: France Feb to October/Sevastopol Crimea November to Jan Posts: 145 Thanks: 155 Thanked 43 Times in 35 Posts	Thanks Simon, It makes sense to me now after reading your post. The garage has given me a quote and I was wiping tears from my eyes and drying my teeth. I didn't put the quote one here to avoid some of the possible doom sayer comments as it is more than I paid for the car 4 years ago but as a whole the car has only covered 75,000 miles, and apart from this issue is just perfect and runs like a dream. I don't know when or if the cam belt was changed, it looked in good nick but I was on my list of things to do for the next service when I get home. Guess I wont have to do that now. You are right the cost really is irrelevant if am prepared to pay it and keep the car. It was just to give me a ball park figure to see that I am not being taken for he's a foreigner mahosive ride. Graeme

28th April 2019, 22:41	#18
ricebridge Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Bankeryd, Sweden Posts: 100 Thanks: 61 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Another possible leaker is the inlet manifold gasket(s). I’m just figuring this one out but just look at what I found on my car: (new one below for comparison) https://photos.app.goo.gl/6oqXpn8z6HzEKFKN9 Not much coolant that could be contained by that...