Clutch needs replacing again after 4k miles-please help - Page 2

Rickshaw · 26th April 2019, 13:58

I had Clutch failures on two of my cars within months and in each case replaced by items from DMGRS - see https://www.dmgrs.co.uk/collections/...1067-uub100193 . Many thousand run since without problems. If I were you CAT I would spesk to JULES and consider him doing the work using the Clutch from DMGRS ( I used the Metal Slave) .

cbr1100xx · 26th April 2019, 15:00

Plus 1 for the kit off matt

My clutch completely failed back in may 2015 and following advice from peeps on here got the full kit off matt , plate,slave and master.
Not cheap but hasn't needed touching in 4 years and nearly 50000 miles so works out cheaper if you only need to do it once.

Did it myself on a gravel drive , not an easy job but doable if you are mechanically inclined.

Stan
(I can guess what will happen now)

PS...I believe matt fits the clutches as well and is in southport

hogweed · 26th April 2019, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Rickshaw

I had Clutch failures on two of my cars within months and in each case replaced by items from DMGRS - see https://www.dmgrs.co.uk/collections/...1067-uub100193 . Many thousand run since without problems. If I were you CAT I would spesk to JULES and consider him doing the work using the Clutch from DMGRS ( I used the Metal Slave) .

The bearing in the metal slave failed on mine after less than 10,000 miles

Brian reckons some of them come out of the facory with no grease

cat · 26th April 2019, 17:59

From the replies it still seems to me that it's pot luck whether it will last or not. I don't know if I'm remembering correctly but I thought that Jules had stopped doing clutches because of the problem of shoddy parts, maybe I dreamt that though and I couldn't find the link to the clutch service on DMGRS website, will have another look.

cbr1100xx · 26th April 2019, 18:02

On the list down the left , its under the workshop heading or drop him an email.

Stan

Typhoon190 · 26th April 2019, 18:45

This is a major issue. I expect to have to replace parts as they wear out, but no one can sustain repairs due to poor quality replacement parts. This will see the majority of remaining 75's and ZT's scrapped off very quickly.

MSS · 26th April 2019, 20:13

I cannot help but feel that there is excessive doom and gloom preceded by over-optimistic claims and general hype.

The key factor in my opinion is who manufactures the components and not who sells them. DMGRS does not manufacture any of the clutch components - he merely sells what is available from his suppliers.

If we consider the parts of a clutch kit that never really give any problems, these are the the clutch and friction plates. This then leaves the CSC and the M/C. Both these items are available from reputable suppliers that have been manufacturing them for many years and have a track record of delivering reliability (notwithstanding that there will always be a small percentage of early-life failures with any component).

We've had a lot of hype about various components from new manufacturers over the years that I have been a member and none of them have lived up to the hype or the performance of the original part.

I only ever entertain fitting an Luk clutch kit to my Rovers. Similarly, Delphi or Meyle drop links. None of my cars have ever suffered from premature failure of any component.

My advice to owners would be that there are only two clutch component manufacturers worthy of consideration these days because of their track record - AP and Luk with the original plastic parts.

Mike Noc · 26th April 2019, 20:33

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Originally Posted by mss

My advice to owners would be that there are only two clutch component manufacturers worthy of consideration these days because of their track record - AP and Luk with the original plastic parts.

Not much of a track record though - in my experience of Rover 75 and Landrover TD4 clutches the hydraulics fail long before the friction plates, which are the things you would expect to wear out first.

My advice is buy an auto.

trikey · 26th April 2019, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Mike Noc

My advice is buy an auto.

That's the easy way out Mike.

MSS · 26th April 2019, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Not much of a track record though - in my experience of Rover 75 and Landrover TD4 clutches the hydraulics fail long before the friction plates, which are the things you would expect to wear out first.

My advice is buy an auto.

That's the way out for wimps!

I am happy getting around 80k to 100k miles from the hydraulics.

26th April 2019, 13:58	#11
Rickshaw Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer, 2 X75 Saloon , MGTF Sunstorm Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Guildford Posts: 380 Thanks: 497 Thanked 172 Times in 93 Posts	Try DMGRS I had Clutch failures on two of my cars within months and in each case replaced by items from DMGRS - see https://www.dmgrs.co.uk/collections/...1067-uub100193 . Many thousand run since without problems. If I were you CAT I would spesk to JULES and consider him doing the work using the Clutch from DMGRS ( I used the Metal Slave) .

26th April 2019, 15:00	#12
cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	Plus 1 for the kit off matt My clutch completely failed back in may 2015 and following advice from peeps on here got the full kit off matt , plate,slave and master. Not cheap but hasn't needed touching in 4 years and nearly 50000 miles so works out cheaper if you only need to do it once. Did it myself on a gravel drive , not an easy job but doable if you are mechanically inclined. Stan (I can guess what will happen now) PS...I believe matt fits the clutches as well and is in southport __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST) Last edited by cbr1100xx; 26th April 2019 at 15:05..

26th April 2019, 18:02	#15
cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	On the list down the left , its under the workshop heading or drop him an email. Stan __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST)

26th April 2019, 17:59	#14
cat Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Warrington Posts: 115 Thanks: 76 Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts	From the replies it still seems to me that it's pot luck whether it will last or not. I don't know if I'm remembering correctly but I thought that Jules had stopped doing clutches because of the problem of shoddy parts, maybe I dreamt that though and I couldn't find the link to the clutch service on DMGRS website, will have another look.

26th April 2019, 18:45	#16
Typhoon190 This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Monogram Typhoon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 4,706 Thanks: 328 Thanked 557 Times in 443 Posts	This is a major issue. I expect to have to replace parts as they wear out, but no one can sustain repairs due to poor quality replacement parts. This will see the majority of remaining 75's and ZT's scrapped off very quickly.

26th April 2019, 20:13	#17
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	I cannot help but feel that there is excessive doom and gloom preceded by over-optimistic claims and general hype. The key factor in my opinion is who manufactures the components and not who sells them. DMGRS does not manufacture any of the clutch components - he merely sells what is available from his suppliers. If we consider the parts of a clutch kit that never really give any problems, these are the the clutch and friction plates. This then leaves the CSC and the M/C. Both these items are available from reputable suppliers that have been manufacturing them for many years and have a track record of delivering reliability (notwithstanding that there will always be a small percentage of early-life failures with any component). We've had a lot of hype about various components from new manufacturers over the years that I have been a member and none of them have lived up to the hype or the performance of the original part. I only ever entertain fitting an Luk clutch kit to my Rovers. Similarly, Delphi or Meyle drop links. None of my cars have ever suffered from premature failure of any component. My advice to owners would be that there are only two clutch component manufacturers worthy of consideration these days because of their track record - AP and Luk with the original plastic parts.