Rover 75 honours.... - Page 2

Raistlin · 11th March 2007, 21:49

If you read that book "End of the Road" - it becomes even more clear that ROver was a sacrifice to greed

JohnDotCom · 11th March 2007, 21:55

When I was first in the Police the Rover SD1's I drove were great, but The Force slowly changed away from British Models (well Vauxhall senators then Ford Granada Cosworths) later to BMW purely because the First 4 were Free! Rover & Ford would not match deal and they Discounted them also. The rest is History they are still using BMW's now but with no "Special Offers" anymore!
Government & British Police Forces should always have used British Cars, Not many Foreign Police Forces Import or use Foreign Models!

dln6376 · 12th March 2007, 08:58

It seems BMW are still proud of 'their' Rover 75, a friend of mine visited their HQ in Germany late last year and they still have the first LHD Cowley model on display alongside a plaque which lists all of it's awards/honours during 1999/2000.

JohnDotCom · 12th March 2007, 09:38

So they should be, It knocks most of their Models for Six.
One of the Reasons they took off the Standard Curtain Airbags. Rover 75/ZT had 5 star award no BMW did so they mad it 4 Star by making curtain Airbags an option otherwise the BMW's all got beaten by the 75/ZT!

dln6376 · 12th March 2007, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDotCom

So they should be, It knocks most of their Models for Six.
One of the Reasons they took off the Standard Curtain Airbags. Rover 75/ZT had 5 star award no BMW did so they mad it 4 Star by making curtain Airbags an option otherwise the BMW's all got beaten by the 75/ZT!

Interesting, but I wonder if it's actually true or just another 'BMW bashing' myth similar to the low positioning of the front indicators.

JohnDotCom · 12th March 2007, 09:45

Don't get me wrong I have the BMW engined Diesel and I am well Impressed with it.

maxi_crawf · 12th March 2007, 09:47

Ditto to all of the above !

maxi_crawf

Where did it all go wrong,

baxlin · 12th March 2007, 11:57

Any chance of the list being emailed to Clarkson, with a challenge to read it out?

I really don't like that bloke, except when he was on Question Time, when he woke up/showed up the politicians!

Paranoid Carlos · 12th March 2007, 12:14

I work with quite a few ex Rover lads, And 99% are fiercly loyal about the Rover but even they appreciate that in the 70's and 80's everybody was trying to screw each other over, they now realise Bmw had good intentions, and recognised the Rover was a premium brand, The view is they bailed out after much soul searching and realising they were never going to get the profits associated with quality cars, and a relatively small range.

What breaks there hearts though is that when the 75 and the mg zeds came on the scene they thought they had cracked it, they were also of the opinion that the pheonix 4 had the wealth of experience to build on that, After getting it off BMW cheap. Alas it was not to be but as most of them say at least they got another 6 years out off it.

Ivan · 12th March 2007, 18:48

yeah it is very sad story..... imho they didnt have the MG zed's soon enough, if they had had them 10 years earlier, it could have saved MGRover.

what happened to the brand new car they were designing? or is that in annother thread lol

12th March 2007, 08:58	#13
dln6376 Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wigan Posts: 311 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	It seems BMW are still proud of 'their' Rover 75, a friend of mine visited their HQ in Germany late last year and they still have the first LHD Cowley model on display alongside a plaque which lists all of it's awards/honours during 1999/2000. __________________ David Lee Newsham 1999, Rover 75, Club SE, 2.0 V6, Atlantic Blue 2002, Rover 75, Connoisseur SE, 2.0 CDT, Automatic, White Gold 2002, MG ZT, Sports Auto 180+, 2.5 V6, Automatic, Le Mans Green 2002, Rover 75, Connoisseur SE, 2.0 V6 Automatic, British Racing Green 2003, Rover 75, Connoisseur SE, 2.0 CDT, Manual, Starlight Silver

12th March 2007, 12:14	#19
Paranoid Carlos Posted a thing or two Starlight CDT Conn SE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Erdington, Birmingham Posts: 1,057 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I work with quite a few ex Rover lads, And 99% are fiercly loyal about the Rover but even they appreciate that in the 70's and 80's everybody was trying to screw each other over, they now realise Bmw had good intentions, and recognised the Rover was a premium brand, The view is they bailed out after much soul searching and realising they were never going to get the profits associated with quality cars, and a relatively small range. What breaks there hearts though is that when the 75 and the mg zeds came on the scene they thought they had cracked it, they were also of the opinion that the pheonix 4 had the wealth of experience to build on that, After getting it off BMW cheap. Alas it was not to be but as most of them say at least they got another 6 years out off it. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

12th March 2007, 18:48	#20
Ivan Avid contributor MG ZT 190+ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hull Posts: 166 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah it is very sad story..... imho they didnt have the MG zed's soon enough, if they had had them 10 years earlier, it could have saved MGRover. what happened to the brand new car they were designing? or is that in annother thread lol __________________ 2002 ZT 190+

11th March 2007, 21:49	#11
Raistlin Banned 75 CDT Connoisseur SE Auto Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 8,450 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	If you read that book "End of the Road" - it becomes even more clear that ROver was a sacrifice to greed

11th March 2007, 21:55	#12
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	When I was first in the Police the Rover SD1's I drove were great, but The Force slowly changed away from British Models (well Vauxhall senators then Ford Granada Cosworths) later to BMW purely because the First 4 were Free! Rover & Ford would not match deal and they Discounted them also. The rest is History they are still using BMW's now but with no "Special Offers" anymore! Government & British Police Forces should always have used British Cars, Not many Foreign Police Forces Import or use Foreign Models!

12th March 2007, 09:38	#14
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	So they should be, It knocks most of their Models for Six. One of the Reasons they took off the Standard Curtain Airbags. Rover 75/ZT had 5 star award no BMW did so they mad it 4 Star by making curtain Airbags an option otherwise the BMW's all got beaten by the 75/ZT!

12th March 2007, 09:45	#16
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Don't get me wrong I have the BMW engined Diesel and I am well Impressed with it.

12th March 2007, 09:47	#17
maxi_crawf Posted a thing or two R75 Saloon Conn CDT SE, MG ZT190+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kingston-upon-Hull Posts: 1,960 Thanks: 823 Thanked 426 Times in 274 Posts	Ditto to all of the above ! maxi_crawf Where did it all go wrong,

12th March 2007, 11:57	#18
baxlin This is my second home Volvo C70 Convertible and JZR 3 wheeler Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tring, Herts Posts: 3,960 Thanks: 124 Thanked 173 Times in 124 Posts	Any chance of the list being emailed to Clarkson, with a challenge to read it out? I really don't like that bloke, except when he was on Question Time, when he woke up/showed up the politicians!